Sir John Stanley of Weever & Over Alderly

John Stanley

• Birth: circa 1425 in Over Alderley, Cheshire, England
• Death: between 1476 and 1485
• Parents: Sir Thomas Stanley, Joan Goushill
• Wife: Elizabeth Weaver (her 1st husband
• Children: 3 sons (John; Thomas, Esq; & George) and 5 daughters (Cecily, wife of Thomas Venables, Esq; Margery, wife of Sir William Torbock; Anne, wife of Ralph Ravenscroft, Esq; Jane, wife of Thomas Hawarden, Esq; & Cecily, wife of Hugh Davenport, Esq.)

http://www.cheshirenow.co.uk/stanley_family.html

Notes

https://archive.org/stream/visitationofches00glov#page/216/mode/2up

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• 5. John Stanley, of Weever and Over Alderley, co. Chester jure uxoris, living 29 March 1470 but d. before 1485, third son of Thomas Stanley, Knt., Lord Stanley, by Joan, daughter of Robert Goushill, Knt., of Hoveringham.[10] He m. (as her first husband) after 1445, Elizabeth de Weever, heiress of Weever, in the parish of Middlewich, co. Chester, d. 17 Feb. 1512/3.[11] She m. (2) John Done, Knt., of Utkinton.[12]
• Jure uxoris is a Latin term that means "by right of his wife" or "in right of a wife".[1] It is commonly used to refer to a title held by a man whose wife holds it in her own right. Similarly, the husband of an heiress could become the possessor of her lands jure uxoris, "by right of [his] wife". Jure uxoris monarchs are not to be confused with kings consort, who were merely consorts of their wives, not co-rulers.

From Ormerod's The history of the county palatine and city of Chester: page 113:

Thomas de Weever married Elizabeth, daughter of .... By her he had issue Elizabeth, daughter and heiress, wife of sir John Stanley, a younger son of Thomas, the first lord Stanley, to whom king Henry VI. a° 24, gave the disposal of her in marriage as his ward; she remarried sir John Done of Utkinton.

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• John Stanley, Esq.1,2,3,4,5
• M, #44557, b. circa 1425, d. between 1476 and 1485
• Father Sir Thomas Stanley, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Lord of Latham and Knowsley, 1st Lord Stanley, Constable & Justice of Chester1,2,3,6,5 b. c 1405, d. 11 Feb 1459
• Mother Joan Goushill1,2,3,6,5 b. c 1401, d. c 27 Apr 1466
• John Stanley, Esq. was born circa 1425 at of Over Alderley, Cheshire, England; 3rd son.1 He married Elizabeth Weaver, daughter of Thomas Weaver, Esq. and Elizabeth, after 1446; They had 3 sons (John; Thomas, Esq; & George) and 5 daughters (Cecily, wife of Thomas Venables, Esq; Margery, wife of Sir William Torbock; Anne, wife of Ralph Ravenscroft, Esq; Jane, wife of Thomas Hawarden, Esq; & Cecily, wife of Hugh Davenport, Esq.).1,2,3,4,5 John Stanley, Esq. died between 1476 and 1485.1,3,5
• Family Elizabeth Weaver b. c 1440, d. 17 Feb 1513
• Children
  • Cecily Stanley+1 b. c 1460, d. 1514
  • Margery Stanley+1,3,5 b. c 1466
• Citations
• 1.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 490.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 679.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 126.
• 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 91.
• 5.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 25.
• 6.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 90.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1483.htm#...
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• Sir John Stanley1
• M, #14628
• Last Edited=6 Mar 2011
• Consanguinity Index=0.02%
• Sir John Stanley was the son of Sir Thomas Stanley, 1st Lord Stanley and Joan Goushill.1 He married Elizabeth Weever, daughter of Sir Thomas Weever.1
• He was an ancestor of the Barons Stanley of Alderley.1

Notes

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Stanley_of_Alderley

The Stanley Baronetcy, of Alderley Hall in the County of Chester, was created in the Baronetage of England in 1660 for the barrister Thomas Stanley. He was a descendant of the Hon. Sir John Stanley, third son of Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley (whose eldest son was created Earl of Derby in 1485).

• Citations
• 1.[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1101. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p1463.htm#i14628
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• John STANLEY (Sir)
• Born: 1436, Weever, Alderley, Chester, England
• Died: ABT 1485
• Father: Thomas STANLEY (Knight Lord of Lathom)
• Mother: Joan GOUSHILL
• Married: Elizabeth WEEVER (b. ABT 1438 - d. 1515) (dau. of Sir Thomas Weever and Elizabeth Fitton) (w. of Sir John Done)
• Children:
  • 1. John STANLEY of Melling
  • 2. Thomas STANLEY (Esq.)
  • 3. Ralph STANLEY
  • 4. William STANLEY
  • 5. Ellen STANLEY
  • 6. Anne STANLEY
  • 7. George STANLEY
  • 8. Cecily STANLEY
  • 9. Margery STANLEY
  • 10. Jane STANLEY
  • ¿11. Thomas STANLEY?
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/STANLEY5.htm#John STANLEY (Sir)1
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Marriage to Joan Goushill
Lathom,Ormskirk,Lancashire,England
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1459
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1386 – 1437
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1439 – 1485

Please see Darrell Wolcott: The Shropshire Walcot Family - Chart XII: Newton Family; http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id106.html. (Steven Ferry, May 12, 2020.)

John Stanley
BIRTH
unknown
Cheshire, England
DEATH
1485
England
BURIAL
St. Michael and All Angels Churchyard
Middlewich, Cheshire East Unitary Authority, Cheshire, England
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JOHN STANLEY John Stanley, Esq., son of Sir Thomas Stanley, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Lord of Latham and Knowsley, 1st Lord Stanley, Constable & Justice of Chester and Joan Goushill.

"The manor of Over Alderley came into the Stanley family when heiress Elizabeth Weever married John Stanley, a brother of the Earl of Derby."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alderley_Park

John Stanley "became the founder of the Alderley line of Stanley family. He married Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Thomas de Weever of Weever and Alderley."
http://www.cheshirenow.co.uk/stanley_family.html

By his daughter Anne and Ralph Ravenscroft, 16th Great-grandfather to Diana, Princess of Wales (Lady Diana Spencer), and 17th Great-grandfather to Prince William
https://famouskin.com/famous-kin-chart.php?name=52600+john+stanley&...

Elder brother of 82201765 Thomas Stanley, 1st Earl of Derby; and 150289118 William Stanley. Birth order as per Cheshire Now - Stanley family pages online (link above in biography). An oft-seen birthdate 1425 fits with this information. Other sites position John as the third son. Research required.

Stanley of Weever
Visitations of Cheshire, 1580
https://archive.org/details/visitationofches00glov/page/215/mode/1u...

Elizabeth Weever
Weever of Middlewich
https://archive.org/details/historyofcountyp02orme/page/112/mode/1u...

Elizabeth Weever, daughter of Thomas Weever.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Weever-2

After John Stanley died, his widow Elizabeth Weever married John Done, Kt.

John Stanley, Esquire, in right of his wife, of Weever and Over Alderly, Cheshire
Son of Sir Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley, and Joan Goushill, daughter of Robert Goushill, Knight of Hoveringham.
Married Elizabeth Weever after 1445/6.
Daughters:
• Cecily (Stanley) Venables
Wife of Thomas Venables
• Margery (Stanley) Torbock
married William Torbock
• Anne (Stanley) Ravenscroft (died 1579)
Wife of Ralph Ravenscroft
"Anne 3d d. to John Stanley brother to Thos Earle of Darby." Anne and Ralph Ravenscroft are direct ancestors of Diana, Princess of Wales.
• Jane (Stanley) Hawarden
Wife of Thomas Hawarden

Elizabeth (Weever) Stanley married second, John Done, Kt.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Done-6

Son of Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley
Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley, son of Sir John Stanley and Elizabeth Harrington, served as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland from 1431 to 1436 and was appointed comptroller of the royal household by Henry VI in 1432. Married Joan Goushill, daughter and coheiress of Sir Robert Goushill and Elizabeth FitzAlan, daughter of Richard Fitzalan, 11th Earl of Arundel.

Thomas Stanley (Wikipedia)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Stanley,_2nd_Earl_of_Derby

STANLEY
Thomas Stanley, son of Sir John Stanley and Joan Goushill, born circa 1435, inherited his father's titles, including that of King of Mann and Baron Stanley. Stanley owned what is now Tatton Park in Cheshire. He married, firstly Eleanor, sister of Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick and secondly to Lady Margaret Beaufort, the mother of Henry VII, as his second wife.

He was created Earl of Derby after playing a decisive part in the Battle of Bosworth field, which placed his step-son and the Tudor dynasty on the throne of England and is reputed to have retrieved the crown of England from the battlefield and placed it on the head of his own stepson. His brother William Stanley was later convicted of treason and executed by Henry VII for his support of the pretender Perkin Warbeck. Thomas and William's elder brother, Sir John Stanley, became the founder of the Alderley line of Stanley family. He married Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of Thomas de Weever of Weever and Alderley.

The family resided at Weever for several generations, but Sir John's great-grandson Thomas Stanley, High Sheriff of Cheshire in 1572, made Alderley the main family seat. He re-built the old halls both of Weever and Alderley. The hall was situated in the village of Nether Alderley close to the mill. It was surrounded by a moat, which was crossed by a stone bridge. He was the first member of the family to be buried at Alderley. An alabaster monument in Nether Alderley Church, depicts him in armour, with his four children at his feet.
http://www.cheshirenow.co.uk/stanley_family.html

MARGERY (STANLEY) TORBOCK
• Second daughter of John Stanley and Elizabeth Weever.
• As widow of John Stanley, Margery's mother Elizabeth Weever married John Done, Knight.
• Margery Stanley (daughter of John Stanley and Elizabeth Weever) was the wife of Sir William Torbock, Knight.
• Margery Stanley and William Torbock are my ancestors, in the line to Durien "Duren" Tinker.
SOURCES - Sir William Torbok, Knight and Margery Stanley:
1) Ormerod, George; Peter Leycester; William Smith; William Webb; and Thomas Helsby. The history of the county palatine and city of Chester: compiled from original evidences in public offices, the Harleian and Cottonian mss., parochial registers, private muniments, unpublished ms. collections of successive Cheshire antiquaries, and a personal survey of every township in the county, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal and Leycester's Cheshire antiquities. (London: G. Routledge, 1882)
Volume 3 page 577.

2) Faris, David. Plantagenet ancestry of Seventeenth-Century colonists: the descent from the later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of emigrants from England and Wales to the North American colonies before 1701. (Baltimore [Maryland]: Genealogical Pub. Co., c1996) page 236.

3) Earwaker, J. P. (John Parsons). East Cheshire, past and present, or, A history of the hundred of Macclesfield in the county Palatine of Chester - from original records. (London: Printed for the Author, 1878-1880)

Margery Stanley, second daughter of John Stanley and Elizabeth Weever. Margery Stanley married Sir William Torbock, Knight. William Torbock (son-in-law of John Stanley and Elizabeth Weever) in Book of Knights: "Other Knightes made in Scotlande by George, Lord Strange, beinge there with Thomas, Erle of Surrey, Anno 13 of the Kinge's reigne: Sir William Terbuke"
https://archive.org/details/bookofknightsban00metcuoft/page/31/mode...

William Torbock, Knight of Tarbock, Lancashire, was born about 1464, the second son of Sir Richard de Torbock and Elizabeth Daniell, daughter of Thomas Daniell, of Wigan. His older brother, Sir Henry Torbock, died in 1489, leaving William to inherit. William Torbock married Margery Stanley, daughter of Elizabeth Weever and John Stanley, Esquire of Weever and Over Alderley, Cheshire, about January of 1489/90.
Children
Thomas Torbock
Henry Torbock
Richard Torbock
Mary / Maud Torbock (married name Dutton)

William Torbock was knighted by George Stanley, Lord Strange, in 1497.

Sir William Torbock, Knight died 5 May 1505.

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John Stanley's widow Elizabeth Weever married John Done, Kt.
Land lease by Elizabeth Weever and John Done, Kt.
Reference:
DVE/1/M IV/31
Description:
Lease by "John Donne Knight and Dame Elizabeth his wife daughter and heir to Thoms Wevr Lord of Wever" to "Wylliam Wev son of Edwarde Wevre Knight" of a messuage (bounded). Witness (int. al.) Wyllia Venables Baron of Kynderton Thomas Venables son & heir apparent of the said Wylliam and Hary Vernon.
Date:
28. June. 2. Hen.VII
Held by:
Cheshire Archives and Local Studies, not available at The National Archives
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/fb5df84a-1796-4...

• Sometimes called knight, but this confuses him with a later John Stanley.

• Elder brother, according to the Stanley website. Other sites say he was a third son. This John inherited the Weever estates of his wife Elizabeth. Possibly this John Stanley was in fact his own father's elder son; and because this John took the Weever estates, John's younger brother was the father's heir.

• Ancestorium website
https://ancestorium.com/tng/getperson.php?personID=I012126&tree=1

Elizabeth Weaver, born circa 1440 at Wever, Cheshire, England. Married John Stanley, Esq., son of Sir Thomas Stanley, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Lord of Latham and Knowsley, 1st Lord Stanley, Constable & Justice of Chester and Joan Goushill, (married "after 1446"); Three sons (John; Thomas, Esq; & George) and five daughters (Cecily, wife of Thomas Venables, Esq; Margery, wife of Sir William Torbock; Anne, wife of Ralph Ravenscroft, Esq; Jane, wife of Thomas Hawarden, Esq; & Cecily, wife of Hugh Davenport, Esq.). Elizabeth Weaver married Sir John Done, son of Sir John Done and Elizabeth Dutton, before 28 June 1487; Two sons (Richard, Esq; & William) and three daughters (Ellen, wife of David Middleton, of Piers Holland, & of Urian Brereton; Mary, wife of Richard Bruen, Esq; & Joan, wife of Tochet Beeston, Esq.). Elizabeth Weaver died on 17 February 1513 at of Utkinton, Cheshire, England.

John Stanley
Living in 1476.
Died by 1485, the year his wife Elizabeth Weever remarried.

The Ancestry of Oliver Mainwaring, of Connecticut
https://johnblythedobson.org/genealogy/ff/Mainwaring/

Family Members
Parents

Thomas Stanley
1400–1459

Joan Goushill Stanley
1402–1460

Spouse

Elizabeth Weever Done
unknown–1513 (m. 1446)

Siblings

William Stanley
unknown–1495

Katherine Stanley Savage
1430–1498

Margaret Stanley Boteler
1433–1463

Anne Stanley De Gresley
1433–1487

Thomas Stanley
1435–1504

George Stanley
1440–1509

Children
Margery Stanley Torbock
1469 – unknown