@Early Virginia Immigrants, 1623-1666

Started by Private User on Saturday, March 31, 2012
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Geni member Linda Thompson asked me if someone arriving in Virginia in 1610 would be too early to include in this project. Since the project name indicates 1623 is the earliest, I feel the answer is yes on the one hand, but it seems like it would be important to include them as early immigrants on the other.

Those arriving before 1623 may well be considered "Ancient Planters," which has its own project, http://www.geni.com/projects/Ancient-Planters-in-Colonial-America-P..., as well as several sub-project for some of the principle families.

The term "Ancient Planter" is applied to those persons who arrived in Virginia before 1616, remained for a period of three years, and paid their passage. They received the first patents of land in the new world as authorized by Sir Thomas Dale in 1618 for their personal adventure.

There were many who arrived in Virginia before 1623 who were NOT ancient planters (including my own ancestors - some arrived too late and some didn't pay their own passage). I think either the title of the 1623-1666 project is too limited, or there needs to be a bridging project between Ancient Planters and 1623.

Tammy, all known Ancient Planters are listed on the overview to the project (see link in my previous message). Linda should check against that list. Chad Bouldin and I started the project when project were first introduced. I'd love some help with it. If she has an Ancient Planter, have her contact me.

We can rename projects. The project name was based on

Complete listing of Early Virginia Immigrants, 1623-1666 (from book published 1912 by George Cabell Greer, now copyright-free)

Which covers 17,000 names.

By contrast there are I believe 25 Ancient Planters.

I think Ancient Planters (and the family sub projects) are good. But we need to better organize the rest of the Virginia arrivals!

So, Private User. does this mean that this William Tuck, was an Ancient Planter?

Capt. William Tucker, of Kiccowtan

Here is a link to a source.

http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/search.muster.cgi?start_page...

Never mind Maria, I looked on his profile and I see that he is.

And I just hyperlinked his profile to the listing on the overview for the Ancient Planters project. Linda, we welcome your help!

Erica, it's more like 60+ Ancient Planters, but I agree, more work needs to be done to organize all the early Virginia settlers. Ancient Planters have an honored place in Virginia and American history, but they were a fraction of the early population.

I like the ship projects, when we can find the rosters, because you have a list of passengers and an arrival date.

I wanted to start some passenger ship sub projects, like we did the Ancient Planter ships, but don't know what to call it. Starting with Virginia in the drop down list would help me.

Here's an interesting article: http://www.jstor.org/stable/4249538

Ship passenger lists are here: http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/shiplist.htm

packrat-pro is a great website. I've used them in the past.

So what should the line of ships be called? For New England we do, as example:

Great Migration: Passengers of the Fortune 1630

For me that makes it easy to see categorically, alphabetically, and by date. BUT I'm missing the category name.

Virginia Arrivals. ?

Virginia Arrivals is okay.
Colonizing Virginia?
Both are easy to use as you did in your migrations -- add a colon and the subproject name. For example:

Virginia Arrivals: The Second Supply
Colonizing Virginia: The Second Supply

Which do you prefer?

Virginia Arrivals (starts with V). I won't be able to distinguish "second supply" etc. Can I just do ship name and date? That's the format that's easiest to find a good list - the "supply" can go in narrative.

I say this because from New England sources they mention "so and so was on The Francis.". So it would be a lot harder to drop profiles in project as people go along if it's not the name of the ship, I think.

In Virginia history, someone will be on the "Second Supply" and you may never know the name of the ship. AFTER 1619, ship records will be more appropriate.

Take Peter Wynne. I can't find the names of his parents or the name of the ship he sailed on (there was more than one in this flotilla) but I know when he arrived in Virginia if he was on the Second Supply.

Personally, I prefer Colonizing Virginia because it will come up faster in the list -- C before V.

Can the words "ship" and dates be put in there somehow? I thought it was a resupply of apples or something. I had no idea it was about ships.

- a Yankee

Hello! Does anyone know why even though I am following this project it won't let me add any of my own family members who were early VA immigrants?

Maybe following isn't enough? I added you to the project as a collaborator, Lizzie. Let us know if that works.

thanks Erica Howton :)

Erica Howton Perhaps you can add me to the other early VA projects to because I can't add anything to the Jamestown one either. :(

Done. I didn't add to http://www.geni.com/projects/The-Commonwealth-Of-Virginia-USA/7675 but I'm making sure i follow the project and it's sub projects.

Private User A belated "You're welcome"!

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