Alored, Lord of Barnstable - Was Alored ever lord of Barnstable?

Started by Harald Tveit Alvestrand on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
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I stumbled across this profile as part of another cleaning task, and tried to figure out who he was intended to be.

Ever-reliable (?) Wikipedia seemed to come up with an answer, but doesn't seem to admit of the possibility that he was ever lord of Barnstaple.

Should we remove that title, or is there other evidence to consider?

Not Lord of Barnstaple. In English his name is more usually Alured. His son appears as "Johel Aluredi Gigantis filius".

There is a bit of information about him in William Cotton, A graphic and historical sketch of the antiquities of Totnes (1850) http://books.google.com/books?id=XpNQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA82&lpg=P...

I changed his name to "Alured the Giant". Good copy, Justin!

The fact that Wikipedia doesn't say something about someone doesn't mean it is not true. I could have added it in Wikipedia which wouldn't mean it was true, either.

Here are two websites that say Alured was lord of Barnstaple

http://fabpedigree.com/s072/f017511.htm

http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=fr;i=4084180

I have begun reading the book by William Cotton, I'll try to get more information.

I kind of regard the book Justin cited (which is available in full from Google Books, not just snippets) as a source, while the trees are just random websites..... in one source it was mentioned that he founded a monastery at Barnstable, and retired to it when he grew old, so he has some relationship to the place, but it's not clear which.

I wouldn't use Wikipedia as a sole source if I could avoid it.

I've seen those references, but they don't mean much. At least in my opinion.

Neither one cites a primary source.

Fabpedigree.com is notorious for being the biggest collection of genealogical junk on the internet.

Daniel de Rauglaudre (roglo.eu) often has good information and valuable clues but has to be used with caution. If you look at his links to sources for Alured, they are just average amateur genealogy posted by the owner of Fleming Multimedia, a computer company in Alabama.

The links don't match the citation: D. Thuret, The Peerage. I'm not able to identify this source.

If the citation means The Complete Peerage (which I doubt), it is a competent source but not always accurate. Notice that (according to this extract) Alured, although known to have been a Norman living ln Brittany, was born in England: http://www.thepeerage.com/p64.htm#i632

Son Juhel founded churches at Totnes and Barnstaple (Devon). The sources we've seen so far say that Alured himself retired to the monastery at Cerisy (Picardie).

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