Robert de Croc - Robert de Croc's children

From http://corkerhillhistory.webs.com/earlyhistorycorkerhill.htm

The Crookisfeu in the 12th Century 

For his services to David in accountancy and in battle Walter Fitzalan was rewarded with the lands now covering the County of Renfrewshire. When David and Walter the Steward returned from Shropshire in England after being defeated at the Battle of the Standard, they returned with five Norman knights who fought on the Scottish side. One of them was called Sir Robert de Croc. Walter Fitzalan awarded part of his lands surrounding the White Cart Water to his trusted knight Sir Robert de Croc. De Croc was charged with the responsibility of defence from Cowglen to Hawkhead, including Cardonald and Corkerhill, and from Renfrew Harbour to Fereneze (Barrhead). He established an outpost on Kerr’s Hill (in Cardonald) and around 1202 he built a wooden motte fort on the other side of the Cart. De Croc’s lands around the River Cart and Levern Water were called the “Crookisfeu”, and he built a nearby hamlet for his farm workers and serfs, which was called ‘de Croc’s Toun’, later to be known as Crookston[4].

From http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-01/...

Eschina was perhaps Uhtred's granddaughter (see RRS, ii, no. 245, comment). Mow was much subinfeudated, and the descents of the various fees are extremely difficult if not impossible to work out. It may be noted here that Eschina, Walter I's wife, enfeoffed ROBERT CROS in a small part of Mow, which came with his daughter ISABEL to her husband ROBERT OF POLLOK,doubtless son of Robert son of Fulbert (see above, under Stenton and Pollok).

> G.W.S. Barrow's 1980 "The Anglo-Norman Era in Scottish History," p. 65, says:
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> No doubt his [i.e. Walter son of Alan, steward to David I, Malcolm IV, and William I] wife also was found for him by the king: Eschina, variously known as 'de Londres' or 'of Mow,[17] styles which point to her being the granddaughter and heir of Uhtred son of Liulf, native lord of Mow in > granddaughter and heir of Uhtred son of Liulf, native lord of Mow in Roxburghshire,[18] her father being a member of the de Londres or London

https://archive.org/stream/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft#page/10/mode/... (The Scots Peerage, Vol l, page 10)

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_fitz_Alan

Marriage and issue

Walter fitz Alan was married to Eschyna de Londoniis, heiress of Uchtred de Molla (Molle) and Huntlaw (territorial designations, not then surnames) [11][12] and widow of Robert Croc. Upon Walter's death his widow married Henry de Molle,[12] whose new surname is probably taken from his wife's lands.

11. Simpson (1713); Burke, Messrs., John and John Bernard, The Royal Families of England, Scotland, and Wales, &c., volume 2, London, 1851, p.xl; Mackenzie, A. M., MA., D.Litt., The Rise of the Stewarts, London, 1935, pps.8 -9.

12. Ritchie, R. L. Graeme, The Normans in Scotland, Edinburgh University Press, 1954, p.281

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Croc

Sir Robert Croc (compare Scottish Gaelic: Cruic, Scots: Cruix, Latin: Crux i.e. Cross), posthumously often referred to as Sir Robert de Croc in reference to Crookston Castle[1]), was an Anglo-Norman[1] knight and landowner in Scotland in the High Middle Ages. He was given the Levern valley in Scotland by King David I of Scotland in 1170.

Crookston, Glasgow takes its name from Robert Croc.[1] Crookston Castle is surrounded by a defensive ring-ditch that dates back to the 12th century when Croc, built a timber and earth castle. Remains of a chapel founded by de Croc in 1180 have been uncovered.[2]

Croc is known to have assigned the patronage of Neilston to the monks of St Mirren's in 1163, on condition that masses should be regularly said for the benefit of his soul.[3]

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Chronology work needed. I think there's at least 2 Robert de Croc's.

Removed death date of c 1126 from the profile.

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Crookston Castle

http://www.ancient-scotland.co.uk/site.php?a=186
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookston_Castle

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https://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/crookston...

The castle might have originated as one of a string of ringworks created by Walter fitzAlan in the mid-1100s. The ruin we see today was built in the early 1400s, likely by Sir Alexander Stewart, lord of Crookston from 1374 to 1406.

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#WalterFitzAlandied1177B

Eschina’s first marriage is indicated by the charter dated to [1200/02] under which her daughter "Cecilia de Molle filia Eschine de Molle…in mea viduitate" donated "toftum et croftum que fuerunt Willi de Mollehope…[et] in dominio meo de Molle", witnessed by "…magister Walterus de Mortuo Mari…decanus ecclesie Glasguensis…Johe nepote dni W. Glasg epi…"[1116].  This document shows that the donor was too old to have been born from Eschina’s [3rd] marriage to "Henry", and her name "de Molle" indicates that she was not born from her mother’s marriage to Walter FitzAlan. 

Mariel Strauss (above) had made a pertinent comment back in 2013 here

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Loudon-105

Curiosity about Malcolm de Molle's sister Eschyna. She is portrayed here as marrying Walter Fitzallen, which I believe was in 1131. If this be the case, how did she marry Robert de Croc first, and have issue? I think we may have more than one generation of Eschynas and more than one generation of Robert de Croc's, possibly but I am not sure. The de Croc children are listed as being born in 1202, 1203, 1204, which is long after the marriage (supposedly her second) to Walter Fitzallen and the births of children with Fitzallen. At this point I see no correction possible except that of children of Croc and De Molle being actually grandchildren....but that is speculative? I believe I'm a descendant of an Eschyna, a Robert de Croc, and a Robert de Pollock, as well as a daughter or grandaughter of Eschyna, Isabelle de Croc. It's really interesting that this family also produced the mighty Durward.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookston,_Glasgow

Crookston (Scottish Gaelic: Baile Cruic, Scots: Cruixtoun) is a residential suburb on the southwestern edge of the city of Glasgow, Scotland.

Formerly a village in its own right, Crookston (Middle Scots: Crocis toune) and its surrounding lands and castle (Dùn Cruic in Scottish Gaelic), were named after the feudal Norman lord, Robert Croc, who was given the Levern valley in Renfrewshire by King David I of Scotland in 1170.

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So perhaps the Robert Croc of 1170 was son of Eschyna, married to Walter FitzAlan from about ?? to his death, 1177.

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From http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-01/...

... "In the case of the Molles and Lundins, I have three Eschina's in my
reconstruction; one the wife of Liulf, by whom he inherited Molle, he
being son of Maccus and therefore having Maxton from his father; one
his daughter who married both Henry de Molle and Thomas de Lundin
(sister of Uchtred de Molle d ca 1170 and cecilia who m Robert de
berkeley); the last the daughter of Eschina and Thomas de Lundin, who
married the Steward and Robert de Croc. I don't know whether this
reconstruction is approved by the best scholars or not, but it seems
to fit the facts which I know. The difficulty is the chronology,
which is too tight, suggesting that somewhere the dates are not
estimated rightly."

And now ...

From http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-01/...

"I don't know anything about the wife of Uhtred's father Liulf, but I suppose
she could have been named Eschina. The other two of your three Eschinas
are one and the same woman. Barrow certainly thought/thinks so, judging
from the information I posted from his books. Also, what evidence is there
that Walter fitz Alan's wife Eschina also married Robert de Croc?"

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http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006182&tree=LEO Doesnt have her married to Robert de Croc.

From http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-01/...

Electricscotland, indeed, gives the following text, whatever it's worth: ...

In the mid 12th century a Thomas de Londoniis settled in Scotland. His ancestor was believed to be William de Londres the 1st lord of Kidwelly. It is most likely, by examination of dates, that Thomas was the son of William de Londres. He could have been no less than his grandson. Thomas was married to Escheyne, daughter of Uchtred de Molle, who was in turn the son of Liulf de Molle. Note that there are some claims that Uchtred is descended from Crinan, the father of the ill-fated Duncan King of Scotland who was murdered by Macbeth. Thomas de Londoniis and Escheyne de Molle were known to have had three children, Malcolm de Lundin, Phillip de Lundin and Escheyne de Molle.

In 1160, King Malcolm IV of Scotland granted the barony of Lundie in Forfar to Malcolm de Lundin. This barony contains the fore mentioned Lundie Hill. He granted the barony of Lundin in the parish of Largo in Fife to Malcolm’s brother Philip.

Escheyne de Molle was certainly married twice; firstly, to Robert de Croc; secondly to Walter Fitz Alan, the first hereditary high steward of Scotland. The following lines were written by the historian, George Macaulay Trevelyan (1876-1962), about Walter Fitz Alan and Eschyna de Molle.

And Walter, in the silence of the centuries, stands unconsciously between, singing his Te Deum for the yet ungathered greatness of his race; in the lofty, fair Abbey, raising his instinctive thanks to God through the psalms of the Benedictine monks. A clear, distinct figure, standing out in high relief; silent, too, as a sculptured form, but full of brave beauty and repose.

"Eschine de Londonia, lady of Molla," becomes the wife of the Steward. That she was beautiful and worthy of her lord, we are entitled to believe. One of the privileges of fiction which history has a right to claim is this faith in the beauty, grace and virtue of all those who have come down to us from remote traditionary times without contrary imputations. Particulars having been denied us, we philosophically generalise, and accept the individual for the type.

The woman, veiled in the obscurity of eight centuries, becomes the ideal lady. Norman, by no means, she; ~ Scoto-Saxon, with eyes softly blue; some Celtic fervour and devotion spiritualising her face; her aspect generous, and features pearly fair, with the rosy flush of Northern breezes, like a soft dawn, lighting them into the purest human sweetness; reasonable and benign; no fickle impulses, no exacting egotism, no self-worship; a woman of household pleasures ~ to be loved by her husband with a constant love, to be tenderly revered by his vassals. Her brown lashes droop not coyly: they are lifted with modest, serene trust in herself and in her world. Her thoughts keep company with her.

Such must Eschine de Londonia be.

There is suggestion that there was an even earlier marriage, to Henry de Molla, perhaps a cousin. This is unsubstantiated.

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I'm still not finding any children of Robert de Croc!!!!!

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=grant...

As per “Lives of the Lindsays” Vol I. by Lord Lindsay (1858) note on page 24 ;
“Isabel de Molle, daughter of Eschyna de Molle, the original heiress, daughter again of Thomas de Lundoniis, Hostiarius or “ Durward “ of Scotland. Isabel . . . . Her mother Eschyna married, first, Robert de Croc, by whom she had Isabel, and secondly, Walter FitzAlan, the High Steward, ancestor of the royal family of Stuart.”

Lord Lindsay, on page 24 of the “Lives of the Lindsays” Vol I. (1858), interpreted that,
- Isabel de Molle must have been the second wife of William de Lindsay of Luffness.

John William Linzee, on page 263 of "The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain" Volume I. (1917), interpreted that,
- Isabel de Molle married Simon de Lindeseie, probably the son of Walter de Lindeseie.

As per “Lives of the Lindsays” Vol I. by Lord Lindsay (1858) note on page 24 ;
“Simon de Lindsay, who flourished temp. William the Lion and Alexander II., was possessed of part of the territory of Molle, in Roxburghshire, by gift of his mother, Isabel de Molle, daughter of Eschyna de Molle, the original heiress, daughter again of Thomas de Lundoniis, Hostiarius or “ Durward “ of Scotland. Isabel may have been a second wife of William de Lindsay. Her mother Eschyna married, first, Robert de Croc, by whom she had Isabel, and secondly, Walter FitzAlan, the High Steward, ancestor of the royal family of Stuart.”

As per "The Lindeseie and Limesi Families of Great Britain" Volume I. by John William Linzee (1917) pages 263 & 264 ;
"Sir Simon de Lindeseie, probably son of Sir Walter de Lindeseie . . . . his wife was probably Ysabel de Molle with son Simoni de Lindesay in the reign of Alexander II. (Liber Melrose, I : 260). Isabel was the daughter of Eschyna de Molle and her first husband Robert de Croc (Lives of the Lindsays, I : 24)."

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No sons then ?

Origines Parochiales Scotiae: Diocese of Glasgow By William Anderson, Joseph Robertson, James Brodie Brichan, John McNab. "Molle"

https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq=eschin...

In 1186, while Symon was chaplain of Molle, Eschina de Londoniis, otherwise styled the Lady Eschina of Molle, confirmed to the monks ' the church of Molle with the lands and all other liberties as they held them on the day on which the charter was given'—and granted them also for the weal of the soul of her lord Walter the son of Alan, of her daughter (apparently Eschina) who was buried at Kelso, and of others, ' that they, and the chaplain, and their other men dwelling in the town of Molle upon the church land, should have common pasture with reasonable stock and other easements in common with her men of Molle.'4 About the year 1198 the Lady Eschina again confirmed to the monks ' the church of Molle as far as it belonged to her, with all its just pertinents in lands, pastures, and common easements of the same town, as the cyrograph made between them and her testified.'5 About the same time Henry of Molle, her husband after the death of the Steward, confirmed to them ' the church of Molle with the tofts and crofts belonging to that church, as well on the west side of Meredene as the haugh towards Cliftun, and with all other just pertinents—granting also that they and their chaplain and their men dwelling in the town of Molle should have common easements in the town along with his men of Molle.'s A controversy, which arose about this period between the monks on the one part and Henry of Molle and his wife Eschina on the other, was amicably settled as follows ....

Publications, Issue 97, Volume 1, page 417, Mow

https://books.google.com/books?id=iowwAQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA417&ot...

The territory of Molle, which seems to have corresponded with the parish, was at an early period possessed by one or more families who thence derived their surname. Liulf of Molle appears to have lived in the reigns of King Alexander I. and King David I., and his son Uctred had the town of Molle and the patronage of the church before the year 1152.7 Eschina do Londoniis, otherwise styled the Lady Eschina of Molle, who seems to have inherited the possessions of Uctred, appears as proprietrix of the town and a large portion of the territory from before 1177 till about the year 1200.3 She was married first to \Valter the Steward of Sootland,° who died in 1177,1° and afterwards to Henry of Molle.“ She had four daughters, Margaret,1 2 Eschina, Avicia, and Cecilia," the last and apparently the youngest of whom inherited her property under the title the Lady Cecilia of Molle,“ at whose death about the year 1250 the family appears to have become extinct. The Lady Cecilia was married to Simon Maleverer,1s and was succeeded in her estate of Molle by Sir Gilbert Avenel, who even during her lifetime was styled her heir.“ Sir Gilbert Avenel appears to have been succeeded by Sir Henry of Halyburton,17 who between 1270 and 1300 was succeeded by his daughter Johanna, first the wife of Ranulf \Vyschard, and afterwards the wife of Adam of Roule.“

Easier to read about The Church of Molle

http://www.morebattle.bordernet.co.uk/history/molle-church.html

Information on the village of Morebattle, near Kelso in Scotland.

Lives of the Lindsays: Or, A Memoir of the Houses of Crawford and ..., Volume 1 By Alexander Crawford Lindsay Earl of Crawford, Robert Lindsay, Colin Lindsay, James Stair Lindsay, John Lindsay, Hugh Lindsay, Lady Anne Lindsay Barnard

https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=Isabel+d...

* Simon de Lindsay, who flourished temp. William the Lion and Alexander II., was possessed of part of the territory of Molle, in Roxburghshire, by gift of his mother, Isabel de Molle, daughter of Eschyna de Molle, the original heiress, daughter again of Thomas de Lundoniis, Hostiarius or "Durward " of Scotland. Isabel may have been a second wife of William de Lindsay. Her mother Eschyna married, first, Robert de Croc, by whom she had Isabel, and secondly, Walter FitzAlan, the High Steward, ancestor of the royal family of Stuart. Simon granted the land of" Hungerigge" in Molle, " ct quoddam pratum sub Ederadesete," to his daughter Helen de Lindsay, whom failing, to her sister, Domina Eschyna de Lindsay. Hungerig afterwards belonged to the Lindsays of Wauchopdale, among whom the name Simon reappears at the close of the century. David de Lindsay and Simon de Lindsay are witnesses, in close connection, as father and son or brothers, to a confirmation in the Chartulary of Newbattle, and either the same or another Simon de Lindsay appears as Canon of Dunkeld, and chaplain to Hugo Bishop of that see, before 1211. Chart. P. St. Andrews, p. 291; Chart. Holyrood, p. 53.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#...

1.         SIMON de Lindsay .  "Symon de Lyndesie" donated "terram meam de Hungerigge…in territorio de Molle" to Melrose abbey, with the consent of "Helene filie mee", by undated charter, which provides the succession in the property of "Eschyna filia mea soror eius" in case of the death without heirs of Helena[968].  m as her first husband, ISABEL Croc, daughter of ROBERT Croc & his wife ---.  "Isabel sposa Roberti de Polloc" donated property "maritagium meum…in territorio de Molle" on her marriage to "Simoni de Lindesey", with the consent of "eiusdem R. viri...[et] patris mei Roberti Croc", by undated charter[969].  She married secondly Robert de Pollock.  Simon & his wife had two children: 

... So that's where the assumption of a marriage between Robert de Croc & Eschyna of Molle comes from: the Molle property of Isabel, daughter of Robert de Croc.

http://www.morebattle.bordernet.co.uk/history/parish-history.html

During the reign of Alexander I (1107 - 1124) it was owned by a person named Liulf. After his death, his son, Uctred succeeded to the land, but by 1153, the the church of Molle, with the adjacent lands, had been granted to the monks of Kelso.
From Uctred the remaining land passed to Eschena de Londonii, known as Lady Eschena of Molle. Why we do not know, as there is no obvious link known between Uctred and Lady Eschena. Her first husband was Walter the Steward, He was a son of Alan who was the son of Flaald, a Norman who was granted land at Oswestry in Shropshire soon after the conquest. Walter, as a result of backing the wrong side in the long rivalry between, the Empress Maud and Stephen for the English throne, which Stephen untimately won, becoming King in 1135, was one of many Normans who came north to Scotland. He joined David I, receiving from him large possessions in Renfrewshire, East Lothian and Kyle. Malcolm IV, who succeeded David I in 1153, granted to Walter lands in Berwickshire and also Molle, with 'all its just pertinents, to him and his heirs in fee and heritage, for a knight's service.' ...

Walter the Steward died in 1177, leaving Alan, his son by Eschina, as successor to the estate and to the office of Steward of Scotland, and whose descendant, Robert the Steward became King Robert II in 1371.

After Walter's death, his widow married Henry of Molle and bore him four daughters, Margaret, Eschina, Avicia and Cecilia. Echina died about 1200, and shortly after the ownership is in the name of De Vescis. We know that Lady Cecilia married Simon Maleverer and the "Avicia" daughter of Eschina and Henry de Molle was probably the "Alicia de Molla" who married Richard Scott, ancestor of the Scotts of Buccleuch, but no information is known about the lives of the other two sisters.

This is a cool tool

http://www.poms.ac.uk/db/record/person/400/

Now back to

G.W.S. Barrow in his 1973 "Kingdom of the Scots," pp.353-4,

As quoted here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2009-01/...

It may be noted here that Eschina, Walter I's wife, enfeoffed ROBERT CROS in a small part of Mow, which came with his daughter ISABEL to her husband ROBERT OF POLLOK, doubtless son of Robert son of Fulbert ...

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So (for an unknown reason) Eschina gave property to Robert de Croc --- I before 1177 and her husband Walter's death?

:)

Tagging Eschina of London

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_fitz_Alan

Walter fitz Alan was married to Eschyna de Londoniis, heiress of Uchtred de Molla (Molle) and Huntlaw (territorial designations, not then surnames) [11][12] and widow of Robert Croc. Upon Walter's death his widow married Henry de Molle,[12] whose new surname is probably taken from his wife's lands.

She and Walter had issue:

1. Alan fitz Walter, married firstly Eva, allegedly a daughter of Sweyn Thorsson, secondly Alesta, daughter of Morggán, Earl of Mar.
2. Walter fitz Walter[13]
3. Simon fitz Walter
4. Margaret fitz Walter,[13] married Robert de Montgomery of Eaglesham.
5. Christiana fitz Walter, married firstly William de Brus, Lord of Annandale, secondly Patrick, Earl of Dunbar.

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https://books.google.com/books?id=rG5IAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PA114&ot...

About the year 1200 the seal of Robert Croc was affixed to a charter by which his daughter Isabella, the Lady of Molle (widow of Robert Pollack) granted the lands of Hungerig in Teviotdale to Simon Lindsay.

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So ... We could have:

Robert de Croc, 1st, married (an heiress of Molle); or Eschyna, and died before about 1131

Robert de Croc, 2nd, or the 1st didn't exist, faithful to Walter Fitz Alan, and Alan fitz Alan his son, married (an heiress of Molle, or was granted Molle land)

Daughter Isabel, Lady of Molle [same name styling as Eschina] married 1) Robert Pollock, who died before 1200 2) Simon de Lindsay

Where are these profiles?

Who's the daddy of Eschina's [other] 4 daughters?

Did she really have 9-10 children?

https://books.google.com/books?id=L6NJAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA339&ot...

Throughout Scotland the schools were for the most part under the direct control of the monasteries, to which indeed they generally owed their existence. Those in the city of Perth, for instance, were endowed by the monastery of Dunfermline in the time of William the Lion; the monastery of Kelso had schools in the town of Roxburgh as early, and we read of the widowed Lady of Molle, a great landowner in the Merse, resigning part of her dowry lands to Kelso on condition that her son was educated at the monastery schools. The importance of a scholastic education was not disregarded, nor were the efforts of the monks unappreciated or undervalued. ....

https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=Eschine+...

The Lady of Molla

Such must Eschine de Londonia be. Her name has come down to us Latinised through the charters of the monks. Of her family we know little.
"Robert of Londonia, son of Richard, son of Maurice, son of Thomas," confirms the church of Lasswade to the canons of Dryburgh. The heiress of this family married Robert, a son of King William the Lion, and gives her own name to her children,—that of her husband, for some unexplained reason, seemingly was set aside. A grant by the prince is extant "to Robert of Londoun his son, of one full toft in his burgh of Melrose." And there is also a grant by "Robert of Londonia, brother of the king of Scotland, to the monastery of St. Mary of Dryburgh, of the yearly revenue of three shillings of silver, and one measure of pepper from Lasswade."
Eschine must be daughter of this Robert, and niece of Alexander Second. She has neither father nor brother when she weds Walter, the Steward. Thus much we assume from the lofty solitude of her name. "Eschine de Londonia, lady of Molla," she comes down in the monkish annals.
Moll was a very old parish on the eastern edge of Roxburghshire, now included in Morebattle; its former name is scarcely known. The village and the ancient kirk stood on the Bowmont water,—that beautiful little stream, a favourite haunt of the angler, which flows through the wavy, pastoral land that was once held by Eschine.
In one of these towers, or peel-houses, which dotted that border country, Walter, the Steward of Scotland, had wooed the lady of Molla. Supreme and lonely in her youth, till the mailed, silent figure of the knight crosses the holms and the howes; and the Bowmont water sings musically as it never sang before, and the turret of her father's peel becomes a most happy watch-tower, and Eschine weds Walter, the Steward, and also becomes historical.
That she was like-minded with her husband, both devout and beneficent, may be inferred from those old chartularies, which sometimes afford unwitting glimpses into lives that would otherwise have passed irrecoverably away.
These record, "to the monks of Kelso, a gift of the patronage of the church of Molla, for the salvation of her soul, and of Walter, the son of Alan, her husband."
"And to Paisley she gave in pure alms, one carucat of land, with pasturage for fifty oxen, for the soul of King William, and of David, Earl of Huntingdon, his brother."
This Earl David, for the safety of whose soul the monks of Paisley received Eschine's gift, is already familiar to all readers of Scott's "Talisman." His adventures, and picturesque history, scarcely need the touch of the novelist to make them read like romance. How he fought in the Holy Land, was shipwrecked in the Mediterranean, made a slave by the Saracens, sold to a Venetian, recognised and ransomed by some English merchants, and landed at last on the Fife shore, is told by the soberest of historians. In gratitude for his deliverance, David founded a religious house in Fife. And Eschine, his kinswoman, remembers his soul, when she gives to the Abbot of Paisley the pasturage for fifty oxen, and the one carucat of land.
After this last donation, Eschine passes away. She has one son, Alan by name, as later history discloses. And tradition has assigned the castle of Dundonald, in Kyle, as her husband's chief residence.

Motherhood is always the same; so also are the daises in the meadow, and the crowfoot submerged in the loch; and the molten gold behind the Arran mountains; and the gleam and shade and evanescence of light and colour on the Frith.

Eschine's life, undefined, becomes, if we will, a picture, filled in by easy fancy, with truthfullest lines and lights. When or how she died, no record has told; nor whether she was laid among the green holms of Moll, or within the new Abbey of Paisley. But Walter, left alone, became a monk of Melrose, laying aside his mail for the scapulary and white Cistertian garb. He died in 1177, and was carried by his brother monks to the Abbey he had founded on the White Cart seventeen years before.

His are the first remains recorded to have been laid in the Abbey of Paisley.

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Sounds like the author believes Eschine pre deceased Walter Fitz Alan; otherwise he would not have become a Cisterian monk in 1176,

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If it's a different (younger) Eschina & Henry of Molle in 1200, then "that" woman could have been the mother of Isabelle, Lady of Molle, daughter of Robert de Croc ... Who was living in 1200 so that doesn't work either.

3 Eschina's ?

1) wife of Walter Fitz Alan, married 1131 or so, so born 1111 or so. Died before 1176.

2) wife of Henry, 4 daughters, living in 1200, children "too old" according to FMG to have been born after 1176.

3) wife of Robert de Croc who was living in 1200 (but she was not? He inherited her property? Or did he acquire Molle property from the Fitz Alan's for services rendered etc ?)

Here's a Robert le Croc de Holland, married to a Molle heiress, and with actual notes ! In the profile !

Robert le Croc

This fellow however seems like he should be ancestor less ...?

Gilbert de Crook, of Whittle

From http://edurnford.blogspot.com/2014/08/11c1f-maud-la-zouche-married-...

Siward de Longsworth de Holand (son of Count Dirk VI de Longworth 1114-1157 and Countess Sofie van Salm von de Rheineck) married Julana de Robert, the daughter of Robert le Croc de Longsworth.

And interestingly, wife of Robert le Croc seems to have the same parents as the Lady Eschina de Molle.