Two descending lines from the same set of ancestors

Can you post a link to where you see the divergence? Open the profile and copy the http://www.geni xxxx address into this message, that way anyone can view the profile. Alternately start a discussion from that profile.

Leaver Line, the 3 great grandparents are correct , for some reason it does want to accept John Leaver as it appears to go a round about way through the Lamborn family. His wife changes from being correct to a great aunt. Since this line is clitchy it throw off all lines beyond it.

3rd Great Grandparents
Elizabeth Leaver
Elizabeth Ann Lamborn
This relationship is correct
Thomas Lamborn
Thomas Lamborn
This stated relationship is correct

Her Father, my 4th Great Grandparents
John Leaver
John Leaver
Identifies him my first cousin 6 times removed – wrong
Elizabeth Unknown
Elizabeth Leaver
This stated relationship is correct

His Father, my 5th Great Grandparents
George Leaver George Leaver
Identifies him as my 6th Great Uncle - wrong
Elizabeth Lamborn Elizabeth Leaver (Lamborn)
Identified as my 6th Great Aunt - wrong

Yes, I just randomly checked using the "pushpin" tool & I get the same results you report. I've asked Geni tech wizards to take a look.

Your 2nd post is very clear in explaining the problem!

Thanks Erica!

Once you get outside of 3rd great grandparents the system takes some performance shortcuts by remembering previously-determined paths rather than calculating them every time. We normally give you a "refresh" icon after a week, that can be used to recalculate the path and discover closer / more-direct paths. I've gone ahead and refreshed these paths for you right now, rather than having to wait six more days, and they're now showing the correct relationships.

So it's outside of THIRD gg's? Good to know! I freaked out a little when my 5th gg became a cousin - obviously there are more cousin marriages in my tree than I really wanted to know about ...

Thank you for the explanation. Thanks for all the help. I'll pass it along to family so they won't panic.

Thanks for the info. Where does this refresh button show up?

I'm confused because every time do a relationship query to anyone on my mother's side, Genii traces it through my father. Therefore, the relationships get very convoluted when there is a more direct line of descent available.

Private User see here: http://awesomescreenshot.com/04f4nt4g5a

Loraine Beauonita Lollo Lamont is the path through your father shorter than it would be through your mother? Is there an example you can post or send to me via Geni inbox message?

guys I'm having the same problem..
Dea. William Douglas
goes thru his mother to get to him
yet my off geni notes say it should go Me my mom her dad his mother
her father henry his father samuel his father samuel sr his father william his father william his father william (deacon) his father richard His father william (deacon) him as opposed to going Lucretia Douglas
her father→ David Caulkins
his mother → Lucretia Calkins
her mother → Susanna Turner
her mother → Sarah Keeney
her father → Dea. William Douglas
But to me as long as it gets there i don't care

Lucretia mother of samuel sr when it should go fathers side

It's a longer path thru the dad so i bet it's a save on system resources kind of thing here.

Speaking of ancestors I also have to note that i connect to john alden thru his daugther and his son who married a southworth...
which is shorter path on there.. confusing calling john alden both 10 ggp and 10th great grand uncle...

Mike Stangel Gl,
The path through my maternal line is more direct. 9th great grandmother. But the message I got from Geni traced it through my paternal line as follows:
Jehanne Jaubert is your second great grandfather's wife's uncle's wife's fifth great grandmother.

The path algorithm keeps getting stuck, as explained above. You can wait a week or so for it to let you recalculate, you can try "walking the path" from profile to profile and see if it resets (note: this has to be done from within open profiles), you can check your lines for unresolved data conflicts and other problems, or you can ask a curator for help.

The root of the problem is that the path-finding algorithm will only find ONE path at a time - and it tends to get really confused if you have multiple paths to the same ancestor.

Private User yes take john alden for example. I desend directly Elisabeth Pabodie
but also thru his son david who married into the southworth name

I find using this charting add on application helpful

http://www.geni.com/projects/HistoryLink/14021

Erica Howton thanks allready knew about this or at least some parts of it

I have seen charts which list both maternal and paternal lines with ancestors in common----then on the chart is a straight or usually dotted line for example going from Paternal James Jones and Maternal James Jones of the same or different number of generations.

I myself have a number of double cousins related to both sides which do not show as such and I am just fortunate to know. When able to contact some of them they have been a real help getting information. I have as an example a 4th cousin with whom I share the same Y dna perfectly, and looking at our mother lines have found that a few generations back they too had shared ancestry....

It would be nice to hit button and have it come up ie 6 generation paternal side and 5 generations Maternal or simply related to both parents.

Just a thought-- and it would provide avenues for a lot of additional information. Thanks

I have a lot of double line relations, in the Parker, Fernald and Chandler end of tree and on the French Canadian side too.

Mike Stangel is there a possibility to implement a button to check different relationshippaths between persons after a path is already found. In most other genealogical software there is a possibilility to do this.

My mother isn't just my mother, she is my 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th cousin as well (among others). And I would like Geni to be able to find these relationshippaths almost immediately just by pushing a button.

I would like to be able to see how close my parents are related.. Get frustrated when relationships doesn't take the blood-line but wants to take short-cuts over more than one intermarriage..

I would also like something along those lines. Some of my cousins are literally related to me at least 3 ways. I have one cousin whose parents were 1st cousins.

Kevin

Cousins re all 4 grandparents- I have a cousin/friend and all 4 of her grandparents are connect to us both ways--

Also several cousins who are related to me on both my maternal and paternal sides---yet its hard to show where my parents join.

My sense is that this is quite common in early colonial familes here in the US. In some cases they kept marrying the same social class that came with them and with whom they also married in Europe.

The story is the meat on the bones of genealogy- and some of these connections have story to them and also reflect a continued culture brought over esp. from England. Hope we soon can have these things show on our charts if we should for any reason choose to do so--- a good day to all- Cheers Philip

It's something we want to do -- at least give you the option to see both blood relations and inlaw relations -- but it just hasn't floated to the top of the "to do" list yet. :-/