Edward Bates, Sr - Verification Required - Two Edwards?

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Doing some merges on Edward Bates and see that John Roger Bates, I had a conflict on the mother of Susanna Bate or Lydia Fletcher. There is also a duplicate Increase Bates, one male one female, again assigned to different mothers.

So looking at FindAGrave and WikiTree, it looks like their may be two Edwards.
One might be the son of:
* William Bates and Margery Phillips
While the other may be the son of:
Edmund Bates and Elizabeth Leverett

One appears to be (b1606 - d1686), while the other (b1609 - d1644). While not the best sources, it looks like one might have married Susannah Putnam and the other perhaps Lydia Fletcher (Fairbanks). If so, which children belong to which Edward. I thought I'd get the ball rolling so we can clarify this and make some curator notes so we don't have future confusion.

Edward:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50060694&...
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=55309225
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bates-1475
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bate-91

Lydia:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=18168410&...
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fairbanks-141

Susanna:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Putnam-261

@edward bates,sr
here appears to be two Edward Bates whose family histories have gotten mixed together:

Edward Bates b. 1606 Buckinghamshire, England married Susanna Putnam d. 1686 Weymouth, Suffolk Co., Massachusetts (left a will) parents = William Bate and Margery Phillips.

Edward Bates Family Page with information on his wife and children. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/`lsfeist/edwardbate1.htm SEE WEBSITE SOURCE INDEX.

Edward Bates b. 1586 Boston, Lincolnshire, England married Lydia Fairbanks d. 1644 Boston, Suffolk Co., Massachusetts (Lydia remarried in 1645) parents = Edmund Bates and Elizabeth Leverett

It is this author’s opinion that #2 is our decadency line.

What is even more difficult to determine is which historical documentation is relative to line #2 and not line #1. Primarily any historical documentation indicating Weymouth was decided to be relative to line #1, and any documentation indicating Boston was decided to be relative to line #2.

Rootsweb.com: Contact: James Snow jsnow@usga.org http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jsno... SEE WEB SITE SOURCE INDEX.

Rootsweb.com: Contact: Dennis L. Maness dennis.maness@comcast.net http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dfbr... SEE WEB SITE SOURCE INDEX.

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JOHN BATES (1641 - 1722)

On 9 January 1641 JOHN BATES was born in Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts. JOHN’s parents are Edward Bates and Lydia Fairbanks.

1665: MARRIAGE OF JOHN AND MARY FARWELL

On 22 December 1665 JOHN (age 24) married Mary Farwell in Chelmsford, Middlesex County, Massachusetts. JOHN and Mary had at least six children:

MARY (b. 8 May 1667)
John (b. 22 December 1668)
Elizabeth (b. 22 December 1671)
Lydia (b. 25 February 1672/1673)
KING PHILIP’S WAR 1675-1676

Sarah (b. 1678)
Rebecca (b. about 1680)
KING WILLIAM’S WAR 1689-1697

FRENCH & INDIAN WARS 1689-1763

1722: DEATH OF JOHN

On 11 April 1722 JOHN (age 81) died in Chelmsford, Middlesex County, Massachusetts.

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Notes On John Bates

Information is based on the following sources:

Rootsweb.com: Contact: Larry Holtsclaw holt4050@bellsouth.net http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:172... SEE WEB SITE SOURCE INDEX.
BIRTH DATE
BIRTH PLACE
PARENTS
SPOUSE
MARRIAGE DATE
MARRIAGE PLACE
CHILDREN (BIRTH DATE & PLACE)
DEATH DATE
DEATH PLACE
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Another source adds 2 with almost same birthday.

Deleted my last post from 2013 and reposting due to embedded links referencing the wrong profiles due to incorrect merges. Trying to get it strait again.

"Thanks for the additional information - I've updated the profiles and made the needed changes and left notes. I created a new profile for Edward Bate, Sr. who married Susanna Bate (Putnam) - the son of William Bate and Margery Phillips. I've made Edward and Lydia master profiles. Both Edward's had a son named John, so I also MP'd them so they don't get confused."

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