Ingeborg Thrandsdotter, av Sula - Primary Sources

@is my 28th great grandfathers wife mother,she is the wife of Olaf the mighty Bjornsson King of Sweeden,mother of Olof, Bjorsson,shortlingus of Denmark her is my linkIngeborg Thrandsdotter, av Sula Judy

As a starter: Sula is in Møre og Romsdal, Norway - not Uppsala, Sweden

It looks like someone have collected together all profiles in the viking age named Ingeborg...

Dear Justine:

What I told you, sending the copies of the corresponding documents and sources, was that Olof II "The Mighty", King of Sweden's wife was Anna Ingerborg of Sula, eldest daughter of Jarl Thraud "Thrand" av Sula, and Björn III "The Old" King of Sweden was married to her younguest sister Ingerborg Thrandotter.
I copied the following:

Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON (RIN: 7482), son of Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON and Ingeborg THRANDOTTER , was born 885 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. He married Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR 0902 in Sweden. He died 964 in Fyrisval, Uppland, Sweden. Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR (RIN: 7481), daughter of Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN and Thrand de SULA , was born 08 January 0886 in Upsala, Upsala, Sweden. She died 02 February 0932 in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden.

Children of Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON and Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR are:
1. Queen Cyrid Gyrithe Gunhilde OLAFSDOTTIR QUEEN OF DENMARK AND SWEDEN (RIN: 7456), b. 11 January 0919 See (King) Herbastus Herfast Forester Arques or Harold DE CREPON, III & Queen Cyrid Gyrithe Gunhilde OLAFSDOTTIR QUEEN OF DENMARK AND SWEDEN OR Harald Herbastus De Crepon-Gunnor I - "Blaatand-Bluetooth", King of Denmark GORMSSON & Queen Cyrid Gyrithe Gunhilde OLAFSDOTTIR QUEEN OF DENMARK AND SWEDEN
2. Gunhild Gyrithe Crepon Gunnor OLAFSDATTER (RIN: 7473), b. abt. 920 See Harald Herbastus De Crepon-Gunnor I - "Blaatand-Bluetooth", King of Denmark GORMSSON & Gunhild Gyrithe Crepon Gunnor OLAFSDATTER OR Harold VIII Herbastus DECREPON & Gunhild Gyrithe Crepon Gunnor OLAFSDATTER
3. Styrbjorn THE STRONG PRINCE OF SWEDEN OLAFSSON (RIN: 7508), b. 930
Marriage/Union Events for Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON\Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR:
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
Notes for Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON:
Birth: 885 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 964 in Fyrisval, Uppland, Sweden.
_APID: 1,7249::10779838
_APID: 1,7249::10779838
Sources for Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON:
Millennium File,
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR:
Birth: 08 January 0886 in Upsala, Upsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 02 February 0932 in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden.
_APID: 1,7249::10774687
_APID: 1,7249::10774687
Sources for Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR:
Millennium File,
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Styrbjorn THE STRONG PRINCE OF SWEDEN OLAFSSON:
Birth: 930 in Uppsala, Sweden Jellinge, Veije, Denmark.
.
Death: 986 or 985 in Killed at Battle of Blackfeld, Fyrisval, Uppsala, Sweden .
Sources for Styrbjorn THE STRONG PRINCE OF SWEDEN OLAFSSON:
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...

and

Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON (RIN: 7482), son of Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON and Ingeborg THRANDOTTER , was born 885 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. He married Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR 0902 in Sweden. He died 964 in Fyrisval, Uppland, Sweden. Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR (RIN: 7481), daughter of Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN and Thrand de SULA , was born 08 January 0886 in Upsala, Upsala, Sweden. She died 02 February 0932 in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden.

Children of Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON and Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR are:
1. Queen Cyrid Gyrithe Gunhilde OLAFSDOTTIR QUEEN OF DENMARK AND SWEDEN (RIN: 7456), b. 11 January 0919 See (King) Herbastus Herfast Forester Arques or Harold DE CREPON, III & Queen Cyrid Gyrithe Gunhilde OLAFSDOTTIR QUEEN OF DENMARK AND SWEDEN OR Harald Herbastus De Crepon-Gunnor I - "Blaatand-Bluetooth", King of Denmark GORMSSON & Queen Cyrid Gyrithe Gunhilde OLAFSDOTTIR QUEEN OF DENMARK AND SWEDEN
2. Gunhild Gyrithe Crepon Gunnor OLAFSDATTER (RIN: 7473), b. abt. 920 See Harald Herbastus De Crepon-Gunnor I - "Blaatand-Bluetooth", King of Denmark GORMSSON & Gunhild Gyrithe Crepon Gunnor OLAFSDATTER OR Harold VIII Herbastus DECREPON & Gunhild Gyrithe Crepon Gunnor OLAFSDATTER
3. Styrbjorn THE STRONG PRINCE OF SWEDEN OLAFSSON (RIN: 7508), b. 930
Marriage/Union Events for Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON\Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR:
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
Notes for Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON:
Birth: 885 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 964 in Fyrisval, Uppland, Sweden.
_APID: 1,7249::10779838
_APID: 1,7249::10779838
Sources for Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON:
Millennium File,
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR:
Birth: 08 January 0886 in Upsala, Upsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 02 February 0932 in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden.
_APID: 1,7249::10774687
_APID: 1,7249::10774687
Sources for Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR:
Millennium File,
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Styrbjorn THE STRONG PRINCE OF SWEDEN OLAFSSON:
Birth: 930 in Uppsala, Sweden Jellinge, Veije, Denmark.
.
Death: 986 or 985 in Killed at Battle of Blackfeld, Fyrisval, Uppsala, Sweden .
Sources for Styrbjorn THE STRONG PRINCE OF SWEDEN OLAFSSON:
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...

Source: http://circlevirtuous.com/fam2148.html

I also told you that they happened to be my 31st great grandparents by my father side (Harold D. L. Bain) and my 27th. great grandparents by my mother's (Sylvia Rojas Baltra).

You may also find more sources in ancestry. or in www.familysearch.com

Best regards,

Sylvia

NOTE. In Chile it also happens that some parents call their children repeating one name and adding another. EG. Their eldest child is called Gustavo and the following, Carlos Gustavo. So it happened with my father in law.

Just to complete the information obtained from the same source and www.familysearch.org.:

Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON (RIN: 7507), son of Erik V (Waderhut), "The Victorious" King of Sweden, EDMUNDSSON and Lady RAGNARSDATTER , was born 868 in Birka, Ostergotlands, Sweden. He married Ingeborg THRANDOTTER in Of, Sweden. He died 956 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. Ingeborg THRANDOTTER (RIN: 7506), daughter of Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN and Thrand de SULA , was born 0886 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. She died 0932 in Y, Somme, Picardie, France.

Children of Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON and Ingeborg THRANDOTTER are:
1. Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON (RIN: 7482), b. 885 See Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON & Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR
2. Erik VIII Victorius Sweden SEIERSAL (RIN: 7514)
Marriage/Union Events for Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON\Ingeborg THRANDOTTER:
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
Notes for Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON:
Birth: 868 in Birka, Ostergotlands, Sweden.
.
Death: 956 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
_APID: 1,7836::389041
Sources for Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON:
U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900, Source number: 163.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: MAD
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Ingeborg THRANDOTTER:
Birth: 0886 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 0932 in Y, Somme, Picardie, France.
_APID: 1,7836::1218789
Sources for Ingeborg THRANDOTTER:
U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900, Source number: 163.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: MAD
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Erik VIII Victorius Sweden SEIERSAL:
Birth: in Gex, Haute-Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France.
.
Death: in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden .
Sources for Erik VIII Victorius Sweden SEIERSAL:
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...

As you see, sources are duly stated here.

Best regards,

Sylvia

Dear Björn:

If you see the documents above, one was Anna Ingerborg and the other was Ingerborg Thrandotter, being sisters to each other and not mother married to Olof. They are not the same.
Here in Chile you may say that someone might have collected all the Marías existing in the country. It's a usual name here after the Virgin as we're most catholic. One of my own daughters is called María Matilde and another might be called María Soledad and be sure that they will not be the same. Even if one is only called María.
Please just go to the links I cited and if you seek carefully, you can even find more.
Best regards,

Sylvia

I see no trouble in being the fact that Olof II "The Mighty" as shown in these documents, backing the information, you just set the correct profile for his wife: Queen Anna Ingerborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR.
That's all.

Best regards to you all,

Sylvia

What documents?
The only thing I see is links to online trees without any original sources.

"Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden", " Y, Somme, Picardie, France" ets just tells me, - don't take it seriously...

Sorry, it seem that the page went back when I was copying Jarl Thraud "Thrand" of Sula information and re-copied Olof II's.

It's as follows:

Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN (RIN: 7510) was born abt. 860 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. He married Thrand de SULA in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. He died 886 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. Thrand de SULA (RIN: 7509) was born 886 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden. She died 02 February 0932 in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden.

Children of Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN and Thrand de SULA are:

1. Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR (RIN: 7481), b. 08 January 0886 See Olaf II "The Mighty" - King of Sweden BJORNSSON ERIKSSON & Queen Anna Ingeborg of Sula, Queen of Sweden BJORNSSON, THRANDSDOTTIR

2. Ingeborg THRANDOTTER (RIN: 7506), b. 0886 See Bjorn III "Den Gamble" "The Old" King of Sweden ERIKSSON & Ingeborg THRANDOTTER

Marriage/Union Events for Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN\Thrand de SULA:
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
_FREL: Natural
_MREL: Natural
Notes for Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN:
Birth: abt. 860 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 886 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
Sources for Jarl Thraud 'Thrand' of Sula SWEDEN:
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...
Notes for Thrand de SULA:
Birth: 886 in Uppsala, Uppsala, Sweden.
.
Death: 02 February 0932 in Uppsala, Stockholm, Sweden.
Sources for Thrand de SULA:
Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Treehttp://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=54829531&amp...

Source: http://circlevirtuous.com/fam2154.html

Sincerely

Sylvia Bain

Private User I have som important questions for you that I like you to think about before you answer them:

1) You are using familytrees you are finding online for your information. These trees are put on the internet by other users like you and me. Do you know which sources they have used for their information?

2) Online trees on familysearch.org, ancestry.com, MyHeritage, Geni and private homepages (and others) are often very wrong. How much do you trust the information you have found, and what makes you trust it?

3) Information in online trees without good sources (preferably primary sources) are viewed upon as untrustworthy without verification preferably from primary sources. Does the information you have copied from the online trees have any source-citation where you found it and is primary, secondary or tertiary?

4) How much do you personally trust this information you have presented and why do you trust it the way you do?

Sula is not in Sweden, it is in Norway, and very far from Uppsala since it is in the northwestern coast of Norway. Do you think it is plausible that a young woman made that travel at this time? I advice you to use a map to find the distance and possible travelroute from Sula just outside of Aalesund, Norway and to Uppsala, Sweden!

How do you know the exact date for Unknown Profile birth?

And now some general thoughts and problems:

Styrbjörn "the Strong" Olafsson is born almost 30 years after his mother Ingeborgs death!

Shrotlingus OF DANMARK is born ca. 6 years before his mother Ingerborgs birth!

Olof Bjornsson is born almost 30 years after his mother Ingeborgs death.

Gyrid Olafsdotter, Danish queen consort the daughter of Ingerborg is born 255 years after her husband Harald Hraereksson «Wartooth» Hildetand

There is a lot of mess in this area that need to be cleaned up, and it is best done by using as primary sources as possible, which means the Sagas where their information is written. If someone has these Sagas, please rectify the errors in this area.

Sylvia, It is one of the great things about Geni that we can keep 'evolving' the data, and many popularist internet sites throw up clues/directions to research further - that might otherwise have taken decades longer to emerge as research possibilities, prior to the crowd-sourcing potential of the internet age.

That's what you seem to be doing here, Sylvia - and the more people who pursue these directions, finding original sources to prove or disprove them - the better the data we present here becomes.

But, as Justin, Bjorn and Remi are saying - we need primary sources to validate these lines, before instating them, so the most useful way to lobby for a change on an historical Geni line, is to open a discussion like this on each individual profile you disagree with, (or start a General discussion on a whole line), and call for other Geni users to come and help you track down the original sources to get the line as correct as the sources allow us to.

Such 'flashmob' work groups on a specific area can be great fun. The detective work of many people together - throwing up different options, and accessing information from all over the world, and chatting through likelihoods of validity - is what Geni is really good for.

So I encourage you to use the data you've presented here to research further each of the different options you propose, track down the closest primary sources, and then pick these guys' brains (they're each of them very clever in their areas of interest) to hone your theories so that you come to the best possible template for this line by consensus of which are the best sources.

Discussions like these remain on the profiles and help Geni users researching this area in the future, because they can consult them and start where you left off - so not having to 're-invent the wheel' every time.

First or all,I'm not using and I don't take others information. I recurre mainly to www.familysearch.org, www.ancestry, com, Peerage data and if needed,to the team of genealogist my family has in England that my latest uncles Sires Maurice and Kirby created and had up to date.
Secondly,my sole interest in this is working in my direct blood line and Idevelop my own tree according to what I find.
As a third point, my husband and me have asked through Amazon,direct books, papers and information existing about our families.
I'm not fond of mergers 'cause as a result, you'll probably find an spaghetti salad.
If I happen to find out that Jarl Thraud's daughter were two, Anna Ingerborg and Ingerborg oThrandsdotter, I'm free of stating so in my tree as having studied the corresponding sources I get to that convincement , it doesn't meen others have to interfere on it as I'm not interfering in their tree. Simply,don't merge it.
I hope this to close unless by my what concerns these two profiles in my tree. I don't pretend to impose itt o anyone.

Sincerely,

Sylvia Bain

I do share the fact I still have to find out the exact dates, I've already asked for a book that may clear up the matter. But it isn't impossible that two sisters (might even have been tweens) have married father and son, having in mind that usually the wife could be sitll 40 years younger or marriage was accorded at birth time for political reasons.

Best regards,

Sylvia

I do share the fact I still have to find out the exact dates, I've already asked for a book that may clear up the matter. But it isn't impossible that two sisters (might even have been tweens) have married father and son, having in mind that usually the wife could be sitll 40 years younger or marriage was accorded at birth time for political reasons.

Best regards,

Sylvia

By the way, I could difficulty be "copying information" from trees started quite after mine.

Sylvia, familysearch.org and ancestry.com are (largely) others' information.

Sylvia, I'm not sure you understand that on Geni you share a tree with everyone else. You said, "it doesn't meen others have to interfere on it as I'm not interfering in their tree. Simply,don't merge it." But, when you add or change information here, you are doing it for everyone, not just for yourself.

Private User at best the information are coming from other peoples private trees without sources. The information you are using from these trees are not trustworthy.

You will not be able to find exact dates because there are no known sources with that information.

The trees on familysearch.org and ancestry.com is not trustworthy when they are not sourced by primary sources, so please do not use them.

You cannot add your work to Geni when you are using these untrustworthy sources, since other users will tell you that your information is wrong. If you want to develop your own tree with your own "fantasy" ancestores, then you should use an offline, private genealogical software.

If you want to know anything about your possible scandinavian ancestors, then you should ask us Scandinavians about it. We probably know a lot more about this than any book Amazon can tell you about it.

So, Private User please listen to us, since us Scandinavians probably know more about this than you do, and i am telling you that what you are saying is wrong. And if you persist on saying that your opinion is right, then I want to see alot better sources than trees from familysearch and ancestry, since they are as untrustworthy as it possible gets.

Here is the text telling their story and also the main source for the information about them. source: Flateyjarbook, book 2, page 70 (in this online version). The text is in icelandic and this part is called: 'Styrbjarnar þáttr Svíakappa'

Enjoy your reading :-)

http://da2.uib.no/cgi-win/WebBok.exe?slag=lesside&bokid=flateya...=

Good find, Remi!
Here's the Wikipedia article in English about this story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrbjarnar_%C3%BE%C3%A1ttr_Sv%C3%ADa...

I haven't been able to google forth an English translation yet.

Harald, then maybe this will interest you: http://www.flateyjarbok.no/ (It's about a complete translation of Flateyjarbook to Norwegian witch is going to be published during the 200 year anniversary of our constitution this year.)

I did some general clean up in this area. We can see if any other primary sources emerge.

Thanks for the reference, Remi. This appears to be the only reference to this relationship. I don't think I would have found it without your help.

"Fra þui er at segia at Æirekr ok Olafr redu Suiauelldi synir Bearnnar hins gamla. Olafr alti Jngibiorgu dottur Þrandar Sulu jarlls. Vlfar het brodir hennar. Beornn het son Olofs ok Jngibiargur."

http://da2.uib.no/cgi-win/WebBok.exe?slag=lesside&bokid=flateya...

The Icelandic is straightforward, but I wouldn't trust myself to try my own translation. I thought I might have an English translation of Styrbjarnar þáttr Svíakappa somewhere in my books, or at least in my notes, but no luck. If it's there, I haven't found it.

But, with your reference, I was able to find a Swedish translation: "Björn den gamle hade två söner, Erik och Olof, som bägge härskade över Svea välde. Olof hade till gemål Ingeborg, dotter till Trand Sula-jarl. Deras son hette Björn."

http://www.tacitus.nu/svenskhistoria/kungar/vikingatid/styrbjorn.htm (this page omits the sentence about her brother.)

Also: http://cornelius.tacitus.nu/sagor/styrbjorn.htm
and http://cornelius.tacitus.nu/sagor/styrbjorn.htm#Skaldedikt

And then to English is easy: "Björn the Old had two sons, Erik and Olaf, who both ruled over the Svea. Olaf had to wife Ingeborg, daughter of Trand, jarl of Sula. Her brother was called Ulf. The son of Olaf and Ingeborg was called Björn [Styrbjörn]."

There are several other fragments about Styrbjörn, but I don't find any that mention his ancestry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styrbj%C3%B6rn_the_Strong

I'm glad to be of help, Justin.

I have a wish, though. On the profile of Björn the old, king of the Svear and his sons Olaf "the Mighty", king of the Svear and Olaf "the Mighty", king of the Svear it is stated that they were Kings of Sweden (Kung af Sverige). That is not historically correct since Sweden as it is known noe didn't exist as an entity at that that. In fact they were kings of the part of the are called Sveariket/Svealand (in swedish) and you can see a map of of the area they ruled here, marked in yellow: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svear

So the correct wording is that they were Kings of the Svear, and the Svear was more like a tribe, where they ruled over the people more than over the landarea.

Sorry for the typing errors. Just ask if something is unclear.

I'm fine with that, Remi. The fields are locked, but as a curator you can unlock, change, and re-lock. I encourage you to do that. All progress is incremental.

Done. Let me know if you find any other references to Sweden (Sverige) where the reference to Sweden is obviously wrong because Sweden didn't excist at the time of the reference.

I'll watch for it, Remi, and change it as I go. There are so many errors on Geni that I usually just correct one or two big problems in a profile, then move on to the next crisis. If anyone finds a case where the names and titles are not appropriate to the period, I'm happy to have them changed.

There are a lot of "king of Sweden", "king of Denmark" and "king of Norway" in the saga lines that are obviously incorrect.

I tend to go for the minimum intervention and change them to "king in Sweden", "king in Norway" and "king in Denmark" when I try to correct - interpreting the country name as a geographical area. They had the title of king, and they ruled in those geographical areas, so that's not false information - and saves me the work of trying to find what the canonical name of the area they ruled over was or is.... I have seen people arguing that even Uppsala wasn't where we think it was.....

Then, Harald, why add a false area at all, just call them king, and leave it to the biography to explain which landarea or tribe they were king over. I don't like Geni being a place where false historical facts are spread. Remember, there are plenty of people using Geni and I don't think many of them know much about which areas the different kings were kings over in the timeperiod 600-1300. So it is very important, in my view, to be correct about this, since information on Geni will be spreading to other internetsites and familytrees. Lets not be adding more false information out there, there are allready to much of that online.