Eleanor FitzHugh - Thomas Tunstall

Here is the Master Profile for Sir Thomas Tunstall, Kt., of Thurland and a listed spouse Eleanor FitzHugh (Unknown Profile).

c-tag Pam Wilson (on hiatus)

Eleanor Fitzhugh as being married to Henry 1st lord Vessy Bromflete Born 1412 @ she was also married to Philip Darcy 6th Lord born 1398

My problem is with conflicting information from http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/FITZHUGH.htm#Eleanor FITZHUGH1

Cut and pasted:
Eleanor FITZHUGH
Notes: wife of Sir Thomas De Tunstall, a knight, and the feudal lord of Thurland Castle. In Browning's "Americans of Royal Descent," the following is listed with reference to his coat of arms: "Arms, Sa., 3 Cock's Combs, Ar., 2 and 1. Crest, a Cock, Ar., combed, etc., Or; in beak a scroll with motto, "Droit." Browning also wrote: "He served, 'armed and attended,' by indenture with Henry V, dated 29 Apr, 1415, as a knight in France, and was at Agincourt, and was rewarded with the honor of Ponthieu... There was an effigy of him in St. Michael's (St. John the Baptist), Tunstall.
Father: Henry FITZHUGH FITZHENRY (2° B. Fitzhugh of Ravensworth)
Mother: Joan SCROPE (B. Fitzhugh of Ravensworth)
Married: Thomas TUNSTALL of Thurland Castle (Sir Knight) (son of Thomas Tunstall and Isabel Harrington)
Children:
1. Alice TUNSTALL (m. Thomas Parr)
2. Richard TUNSTALL of Thurland Castle (Sir Knight) (m.1 Elizabeth Frank - m.2 Eleanor ?)
3. William TUNSTALL
4. Thomas TUNSTALL (m. Margaret Pudsey) (grand-Father of Cuthbert Tunstall, Bishop of Durham)
5. Margaret TUNSTALL (m. Ralph Pudsay)
6. Joan TUNSTALL (m.1 Roger Ward - m.2 William Stapleton)

The only dates are for Thomas Parr, Alice's husband, b. 1411, d. 1464

I’ve posted a document from Plantagenet Ancestry

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000078897578951&

Identifying Alianor FitzHugh as mother of Joan Tunstall.

Based on that & other notes I would like to remove “speculative” from her profile name.

Opinions ?

Might mention that the Curator's Box claims that she had a daughter named Margaret in each of her 3 marriages. Only Margery Darcy and Margaret Bromflete are listed, so where's the 3rd?

With Richardson, Cokayne & Burke's, et al, Eleanor has a better pedigree than most profiles that aren't labeled speculative

Yes, we should put together a more complete child list for the profile. I’ve removed the “speculative.”

Here’s a Marriages / parents reference:

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/fitzhugh1321.htm?z...

Henry [FitzHugh], 3rd Baron FitzHugh, KG
born c. 1358 mar. Elizabeth de Grey

3. Eleanor FitzHugh (d. 30 Sep 1457), mar. (1) as his first wife Philip [Darcy], 6th Baron Darcy de Knayth, (2) Sir Thomas Tunstall, of Thurland, co. Lancaster, and (3) as his second wife Henry [Bromflete], 1st Baron Vesci, and had issue by her first husband

The interesting thing is that most of the sources quote Douglas Richardson, yet they don't agree.

Geni About Me: 8 children
Marriage 1 - Sir Philip Darcy of Knaith - 2 daughters
......................Elizabeth m. Sir James Strangeways
......................Margery* m. Sir John Conyers
* Wikipedia refers to her as Margaret

Marriage 2 - Sir Thomas Tunstall - 3 sons/2 daughters**
......................Sir Richard KG
......................Thomas
......................William
......................Elizabeth/Isabel m. Sir Simon Norwich
......................Joan m. 1. Sir Roger Warde, 2. Sir William Stapleton
** WikiTree adds 2 kids: Alice Parr (Tunstall) & John de Tunstall

Marriage 3 - Sir Henry Bromflete - 1 daughter
......................Margaret m. 1. Sir John, 9th Lord Clifford, 2. Sir Lancelot Threlkeld

Some sources only give her 5 children & some only 3, omitting the Tunstall progeny.
WikiTree cites Richardson & "Lewis, M....Eleanor FitzHugh 12935, b. Ca. 1391, d. 30 Sep 1457 (there are 3 different birth dates for Eleanor)"

Margaret / Mary Tunstall (m. Ralph Pudsay) (as quoted on Tudor place)

She's actually controversial. RD (2004) has her as a daughter of Thomas Tunstall, MCA (Richardson) her as sister & wrote he's advised Boyd of the correction. So Eleanor "lost" one of her Margarets.