ATTENTION Curators, please assist

I don't know if anyone is attending to this already, as the implications would seem to spread far and wide...
This
Richard II of England
is clearly a duplicate of
Richard II of England

I did send a message to the manager of the duplicate a bit earlier, but just thought to post it here too, as it's an historical one.

Also - same thing with these:

Edward, the Black Prince
and
Edward, the Black Prince

Or perhaps the new ones should just be deleted?

I have merged the wrong persons ( Ivan Zrnčić ) and when I tried to unmerge the profile, becouse now the person has two pairs of parents, it was impossible. I can`t delete the relation between parents. The real parents of my relative Ivan Zrnčić are Pavao Zrnčić and Lucija Zrnčić , not Nikola Zrnčić and Tomica Zrnčić . So, that are two different people in one profile. If you could unmerge that profile, I would be thankful.

I will take a look at it, Tihomir

Just did the unmerge.
Give it a couple of sec and it's done

Dimitri Gazan thank you. It looks great now

Then we are both happy :)

Tagging Ofir Friedman

See post from
Melanie Lucy Smith, top of this page...

"Richard II Plantagenet, King
is clearly a duplicate of
Richard II of England

I did send a message to the manager of the duplicate a bit earlier, but just thought to post it here too, as it's an historical one."

I seem to recall Royalty could be your area of expertise....

This may sound dumb, but is there a site within Geni that explains the documentation abilities for the About section??? I know the basics of bold, the bullets, and the # and use those most, but there are others that I don't know that might make things easier or more clear when I add info and format it so it is easy to read.

I checked the Help site & didn't find anything that looked like it applied. I have seen google books with [ ] around them & == but don't know what/how to use them... also see the A's in different sizes... & have noticed if all of the ' aren't there the bolding isn't what I intended...

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Not dumb at all Patricia... I took ages to get used to it and still get annoyed with it at times. A single space (not always easy to spot) will make it not do what is expected).
If you are quoting from a site, say wikidedia then you use [ the site address one space then the site name (in quotes if you want it bold) then ]

The A s give you different sized titles so type your title and then select it and click on the largest A for the largest title and the smallest A for the smallest title.

Hope that helps.

Patricia - you say "I know the basics of bold, the bullets, and the #" -- could you explain those to me?? I have looked at the "formatting help" from the About Section and it doesn't speak to me at all. ( I think you have to know more than I know for it to be of any help.)

http://www.geni.com/projects/Geni-Wikitext-Unicode-and-images/8404

I'll post a discussion in that project for each of the toolbar functions, hopefully with help from others like Dimitri Gazan

Thanks, Pam Karp (can't seem to tag Ofir again!). Someone else seems to have attended to that group of royalty and nobles. I can see how it has been and will continue to be a perpetual problem when newbies create their family trees. I'd like to see a bit more guidance and help forced upon newbies before they get to that point... (But being a newbie myself, am no doubt repeating numerous previous discussions somewhere else!)

Also, thanks to Erica Howton and others in that discussion about the formatting in the About section. That was another thing on my list to get back to finding out more about.

Me again, a different matter about Lord Nelson:
Admiral Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson, KB

(See the discussion thread on his profile if interested - about dubious relationships.)

My question here is, in general, whether his profile is another case for being locked, as have several figures of royal or noble lines? Or is there a threshold which needs to be reached before it becomes worth locking a profile? Just curious, as there have been several duplicates of Nelson merged during my short time with Geni.

Private User
Good suggestion ....Done

Thanks, Angus Wood-Salomon. What about adding a note up top saying that it's locked?

Also, what do you reckon about the paternity of Horatio Rhees? Don't you think that relationship should also be removed (as his mother was)?

Apologies for monopolising this thread at the moment, but there seem to be further merge issues on Nelson's mother's line. Following my alerts to problems in this area, I had a go at merging one or two obvious duplicates, but there still seem to be problems with the relationships pertaining to these two profiles:

Sir John Carey, 3rd Baron Hunsdon
and his daughter Blanche
Blanche Wodehouse

You can see Sir John's details here in thepeerage (and link to Blanche):
http://www.thepeerage.com/p353.htm#i3525
and also his siblings don't seem to line up with the info on his father, Sir Henry Carey:
http://www.thepeerage.com/p10304.htm#i103034

I already asked You to unmerge Ivan Zrnčić because he had multiple parents. But, I forgot about Andrija Zrnčić who is actually not his brother. I have his wife in my family tree ( Jurka Zrnčić ), but I can`t delete the relation with Pavao Zrnčić and Lucija Jukić that I thought were his parents. So, I would like to delete his parents and add new ones. If you can delete the relatio, that would be great. Thank you

Hi Tihomir, I have deleted the parents for you

Hi Melanie, I hope I solved your problems. Please do let me know if I messed up completely. If so, another curator should step in and help out, ok?

Dimitri Gazan thank you

You are welcome, Tihomir

Dimitri Gazan

Thanks very much - that has certainly got rid of some of the problems, but I'll have to come back to re-check Blanche's sibilings (there seems to be a Henry in stead of a John) and her offspring (apparently missing a Jane and Mercia and Grysell are not mentioned in my quoted sources).

However it's late now for me and I'm tired, so I'll come back to it tomorrow. Hopefully should be able to sort out the rest myself, but will give you a hoy if I get stuck again.
:-)

Cool :)

Erica Howton, Thanks sooooo much for the site you mentioned. It is very helpful. It offers a few more options when I am formatting info I add to a profile, although I like the outline format (w a few primary words in bold) you get with the bullets. It is soooo much easier to read compared to the paragraph format!!!

I will save the info from that site for future use until the recommendations there become ingrained with use...

It would also be helpful for all of us, especially newbies to have that info in the Help site... "How to use formatting tools in the About section" under "Adding info to the About section"... Any chance that this is possible???

Can anyone else think of info that would be helpful for newbies regarding adding info to profiles???

Maybe something on merges--when & how those with basic, poss. pro membership can do the merge, & when best to ask for curator assistance, (include precautions!!!)... since we seem to have freq. problems with that issue here... I know that common sense should enter into the picture when it comes to merging, but it seems that commodity is frequently lacking based on the bad merges that are brought to the attention of curators here!!!

Again, thanks, Erica--you are as always helpful!!!

Patricia Ann Scoggin

Yes, I am definitely with you there on the "Help for newbies" idea - especially essential stuff which would prevent endless duplicates being created. I have some ideas and was going to start a separate thread about this, but don't have time just now - maybe will come back to it later today.

(Curators - is it okay to do this, under Public Discussions? - Or is there an existing one going already on this topic?)

http://www.geni.com/projects/CUZZIN-FAQs/25177

Applies to all English speakers (us Americans can figure out South African English ... Usually ... :))

You will notice "help" type projects nicely indexed on that page.

Specifics such as Pat mentioned in discussions within those projects, this thread (curators please assist) best for quick help & answers.

Collaborators welcome on the groups of projects, or just "follow" for easy reading.

Erica Howton
Thanks for that - useful!

I'm too tired tonight to read, absorb and comment at length further now*, but my issue is more about how to guide/force newbies to read and understand at least the very basics, in order to keep the integrity of the database and reduce the constant workload for the curators in merging duplicates, etc. -
e.g. at the time they create their accounts, before they start creating a single profile, a screen staying "STOP" (in the name of love...:-) ), "READ THIS FIRST!!!"... then some info saying that if they have a famous relative, he or she is almost certainly there already (and even not so famous ones, especially going beyond great-grandparents), etc.

I'm only too aware (from my various roles in IT) that users don't go looking for help, it needs to be shoved under their noses... as briefly as possible, in simple English and in dot points with links to other info where appropriate. And with important matters such as how not to create duplicates, preferably on a page they can't get any further until they've clicked on something saying they've read it.

Because I signed up a while ago (and only got active more recently), I can't remember the process, but I don't remember being guided to a basic "how-to" page and certainly the searching process and results are not transparent or intuitive.

*I lied. I rambled on. I'll have to start a new discussion thread, I think, perhaps later or tomorrow - or, anyone else, feel free to do so! (It's night time here.)

Could someone please complete the following merge:

http://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000007787221840?fsession_id=1...

Thanks!

I also need to be able to edit the following profile who is the daughter of above:

Sarah Butler

It looks like the manager of these profiles haven't been on Geni in quite a while.

Thanks!