ATTENTION Curators, please assist

Thank you.

Can we disconnect Saint Ælfgifu of Shaftesbury

from her husband? this is St. Aelgifu, who was indeed married to one of the kings of England, but it was Edmund I.

thanks

Private User: St Aelgifu is ready to remarry the right person.

Excellent. I will go round the various aspects of her up.

Spoke too soon.

this one Saint Ælfgifu of Shaftesbury is not the daughter of Aelfhelm -- this is also St. Aelfgifu.

this one isn't the mother of Cecily -- which, one might note, wouldn't be a name used in England for Quite Some Time after Aelfgifu: Ælfgifu

thank you. all the Aelfgifus thank you.

Look! MOre!

this Aelgifu Ælfgifu of York is not actually married to the Bishop of Durham, nope, being married to the King of England instead; can disconnect her?

she's her sister, too, on this profile. Yikes. So I'll merge them when things get untangled, unless you go ahead and do it.

thanks!

Oooh! More!

This Aelfgifu is her own mother, alas; Edith "the Flower," as she's called here, took the name Aelfgifu. But she didn't have a child named Aelfgifu, as far as I can tell, who knows why.

Can they get disconnected?

thanks.

oops! the profile!

Eadgyth, Lady Of Mercia

In related news, this Ecgberht Ecgberht
is the son of Aethelred the Unready and Aelfgifu, daughter of Thored (not Emma Aelfgifu of Normandy).

Private User done to here. I suspect there is more :(

Thanks, Erica Howton! This is quite nerve-wracking; I'm working Very Hard not to mix people up. I totally see why things got confused -- not in the MP's, they're fine; it's on the edges of things.

Though there is one MP that has double parents -- I contacted the curator for that profile directly.

And by the way! WHY would so many people want to name their child "Aelfgifu"? Because it means "elf beauty."

Yep: this one Saint Ælfgifu of Shaftesbury

needs to get disconnected from her father (she's actually the daughter of Wynflaed).

Can't find evidence that Ealdgyth and Sigeferth had children:

Ælfgifu of York

so can we disconnect this Aelfgifu from them?

thanks

Private User two more beautiful elves now free floating, I hope we can find their homes.

Thanks!

"And by the way! WHY would so many people want to name their child "Aelfgifu"? Because it means "elf beauty." "

Lol, that could be so, but not likely, as it probably is derived from holy, and secondly, gift, holy gift, mentioned to the bearer to be devoted to something special, like god.

We still have some variants of this name, Helvig, Helga, and the slavic variant, Olga... ; )

The languages are so close! But in the Anglo-Saxon, aelf is elf:

http://www.bosworthtoller.com/037792

gifu is gift:

http://www.bosworthtoller.com/050731

So, not specifically holy, since the elves are involved. So, "elf-gift."

Beauty is pushing it, I'll grant you -- it's "flaed," really -- "AElfflaed" is specifically "elf beauty."

But, in Anglo-Saxon, words get put together as "kennings," and mean more than they seem to.

(And the Anglo-Saxon for "holy" is "halig," very close to the Scandinavian variants.)

I guess you mix up the name with Alf, that is a sort of elf, later names as Alfred, Alfhild, etc. But to make a long story short, Holy, or as in Sweden "helig, and huld" are the same word, with different spellings, in Spanish that would correspond to alma, in meaning, but that word also have the meaning soul, then if we go back to huld, that word could also mean an elf, but that was before Christianity, so the meaning goes over to the later believe, they were now Christians and all the aspect is forwarded to this new religion, it would be unholy toname someone to witch, which was the older definition to both Elf, and Huldr, but maybe I'm wrong?

I give you a picture, huld means bent, when you see an old hag, she is walking bent, it gives it self, later, when you see someone honor god they bent, it is a word that originally describes a form, the curve, that in it's turn gives arose to the word hide, and hell, as in "sieg hei", honor, that goes over to indulgence, as in grace, service, the differences is small between Latin and German language, if we really look close on the word, or why not take just that as an example, word, ord, verbum...

Nope. Not witch. Elf, like the faeries.

When trying to understand exactly what a word meant under any given historic time frame, we have to look at more than just the words originally meaning or, meaning of today, to exact that time, this is why I claimed that "Aelfgifu" just then meant "holy gift", for them at that point.

If the father of Jesus of Nazareth was God Almighty, then Gabriel was "just" the delivery boy and Saint Joseph becomes a stepfather. Anything else would not make any sense, but religion often do not make sense, that's why people have to believe. Jesus is an exceptional case when it comes to genealogy, do you have stomach enough to set up that line? Would it offend other religious groups if presented or what? I also noted that god is marked as dead, isn't that also offending?
God Almighty .
Mary, mother of Jesus
Jesus

Ulf Ingvar Göte Martinsson,

I am a Jew. I believe that Jesus was the son of Joseph and Mary, not the son of God Almighty. I also do not believe that God Almighty is dead (and when i went to his profile, he was marked as "still alive").

The gentler and more tolerant we are to one another, the better.

There are those for whom it is drivingly important that the genealogy given for Jesus through both his paternal and maternal lines in the New Testament is to be proven wrong because, as you state, to those people Joseph is not his father. People who believe that have no deep interest in the genealogy of Jesus, and our use of the Bible as a genealogical record is something that concerns them not. There are other web sites where they can prove their points. This is not such a site.

Your opinions on why religion exists and/or how people make use of it cannot be assisted by the Curators of this site, so asking for their help in that regard is pointless.

On the other hand, Geni, like any other collaborative database of wiki, is subject to depredations and degradations caused by agenda-driven collaborators, so if you see malicious, sarcastic, racially motivated, biased, spiteful, or comedic changes to important profiles, please do report your concerns here. THAT is something that the Curators can assist with.

Kindness and patience are important virtues, no matter what one's belief or religion.

Anne Brannen, i agree with you. The Scandinavians converted to Christianity a thousand years agio, but still retained belief in and respect for the aelvar or elves. These elves are not little fairy-pixie garden sprites, as in England, but rather natural spirits, some of whom are good and some malicious. There are house elves (not in the sense that J. K. Rowling used the term in the Harry Potter books) whose services can be purchased, especially at mills or at Elven Rocks (prehistoric boulders with many pecked holes in them) and there are even blood-sucking elves that live in prehistoric cairns and cause children who play with them to sicken and die. You can read a lot more about the aelvar as they were understood from the Middle Ages through the present in the book "Trolldom: Spells and Methods of the Norse Folk Magic Tradition" by Johannes Bjorn Gardback. It is for sale at Amazon. (Disclaimer: i edited the English edition of this book.)

re Adela van Leuven
she is now both the sister and a wife of Henry II, count of Louvain & Brussels which I cannot believe
I think she should only be the sister of him

Hi again, with another Aelfgifu:

NN

Can she get disconnected from her husband Malcolm? According to MedLands, the name of Malcolm's wife is not known.

thanks!

Ard van Bergen Leo van de Pas has her as sister of Henry ll (the ref in her profile), so she has been disconnected as his wife.

Private User

This family should be merged to the MPs

Máel Coluim Mac Cináeda, Rí na h'Alba