Hendrick Aten (Auten) - disconnected wife

specific interest is Geertje Hendricks who it seems is a duplicate for Geertje Hendricks

This site has a different mother for the Aten children (3 girls 1 boy) who are now sorted to their father, thank you!

https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-199151281-4-323/geertj...

Geertje Stynmets (born Sheerburch) 1596 - 1636
Birth: 1596 Netherlands
Marriage: Marriage to: Johannes Casparius Davidus Stynmets
Circa 1589 Netherlands
Marriage: Circa 1610 Arnhem, Gelderland, Netherlands
Death: 1636 South Holland, Netherlands

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Is there no other Geertje Hendrickse? Death location is different (Bergen County NJ vs Flatbush). The Flatbush girl has parents.

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Need more info ....

Geertje Hendricks

This page

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=k4zStKaPmsEC&lpg=PR1&p...

Genealogies of New Jersey Families: Families A-Z, pre-American notes on old ...

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Everyone (not everyone, but many) with Hendrick patronym

http://njgsbc.org/files/BCFamilies/BCFam-Hendricks.pdf

Aten family also called Van Doesburgh (origin location)

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Dutch-Colonies/2012-0...

Gysbert Lubbertsen, b. about 1624 Beemster, Noord-Holland, Netherlands; d. before 1677; m. (banns: 24 Feb 1655 NYC Ref Ch), Lysbeth Thomas. Lysbeth Thomas m. (2) Adrian Hendrickse Van Doesburgh (aka Aten).

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=k4zStKaPmsEC&printsec=fron...

Counter to the usual myth form, in this case 3 sisters came to America: Geertje, Beletje, Annetje Hendrickse.

Would those be:
Belitje Hendrickse & Anneken Hendrickse

Zabriskie thinks the 3 sisters were from Arnhem, Gelderland.

So was Hendrick Aten.

Erica, read the About of Beletje on Geni, it is quoting the "source".

Apparently Beletje's son was born 5 years before her, this "source" can't be relied on.

According to Zabriskie Beletje's "son" is actually her husband, whoever complied that Douglas Family Ties page has put her in the wrong generation.

Do you mean this Beletje, my 10th great aunt (possibly)

Belitje Hendrickse

Is the profile manager aware of the correction needed?

Would it be better to set up a corrected profile with the correct husband & with the Zabriskie source quoted & uploaded?

I have not yet fully digested the article or visualized the tree, I've more followed the Skillman side.

And do we think the 3 sisters are Aten's? Zabriskie doesn't give them parents.

The manager is not receptive to advice by me, in fact he doesn't remember working in this part of the tree.

I don't know if a new profile is needed ... we could use this one Belitje Hendrickse who at least has the right husband! :) Sadly i suspect that her parents are very wrong after reading the text of her father's" About, Hendrick Hendricksen Kipp, i very much doubt she is a Kip.

So without having done any real digging we now have 3 Beletje's already:

Belitje Hendrickse
Belitje Hendrickse
Belitje Hendrickse (i commented on her profile pic)

Zabriskie doesn't assign parents that i am aware of, I am hunting for the baptisms in Arnhem but no success yet, but he is certain that the 3 sisters are indeed sisters. I think we will end up with a "Hendrick N.N." place-holder and no mother.

Oh goodness, these indentured husband hunting serving girls were not the daughters of "Hendrick Kip of the haughty lip" ! They would have inherited prime real estate at thirty third & third (or toity turd & turd, as they say in Flatbush ....)

And they don't belong to the Aten's either, do they?

Our esteemed (and somewhat dead) predecessor gave up on them as a dead-end, unless the online archive gods are very kind to us I doubt we will do better but 1/2 the fun is in the hunting.

And finding ridiculing poems about New Amsterdam settlers !

So I've made the "Hendrick" profile & attached the 3 sisters

Does Geertje Hendricks get merged into Geertje Hendricks & lose the Hendrick (Henrick) RIJCKSEN parents ?

I think so

Done.

This profile Cornelis Aertszen Van Schaick has:

"he married Belitje Arabella Hendrickse, daughter of Henrick Hendrickse, 1 Jul 1640 in Sloterdyck, Utricht, Netherland"

I think that is right. Zab references it too iirc
Not near PC at moment

Yes GOZ quotes Dr Hart on page 266 of https://books.google.com.au/books?id=k4zStKaPmsEC&printsec=fron...

married 1 July 1640 at Sloterdijk "near Amsterdam".

Presumably they mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloterdijk,_Amsterdam

Utricht (Utrecht?) is another city in another province, doesn't make much sense. Fun fact, Utrecht is the oldest Dutch city.

Bottom right corner of https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9QV-39VW?mode=g&i... is the marriage declaration of Cornelis Arentss and Belitje Heijndrix. Amsterdam 16/06/1640

Frankly if i wasnt working backwards from the known date i doubt i would have found it. Some of these scribes must have been writing with their eyes closed... drunk.

Both husband and wife appear to be illiterate given the "X"s in place of signatures

Now those are my kind of pioneers!

Can we find sister Annatje's husband? from GOZ on page 266:

"Annatje, first wife of Jan Arentsen Vanderbilt ..."

Here she is ....

Anneken Hendrickse

With the false Bergen origin? And fictional parents?

to be merged into Anneken Hendrickse ... unless we choose not to follow Zabriskie? (who would do that?)

dupe for sister Annetje (mother of the vanderbilt family) has yet another set of parents ive not come across before Anneken Hendrickse

Could be a bad merge & he had 2 Annteje wives?

Annetje JELLIS
Birth: Abt 1641 of Bommel, Geld, Neth
Death: 1697 Saugerties, Ulster, N y
Father: Jiles Douwesz (Jellis Douwse) FONDA
Mother: Hester JANS (DOUWSE)

http://www.familycentral.net/index/family.cfm?ref1=26065:2097&r...

For something that looks a little more sourced

https://books.google.com/books?id=P3TWry2cVJQC&lpg=RA1-PA91&amp...

Jan Jansen of Oosterhout in Brabant, widower of Annetje Hendricks, and Annetje Jelles of Bommel in Gelderland were married in Kingston on 18 February 1663.

:) we are cross posting

I think we have another Annetje Hendricks, Jan Jansen is not Jan Arentsen.

no indication of a merge in the revision history, there is still a daughter attached to that couple, Annetje Osteerhout if she does turn out to be another Mrs Vanderbilt and current husband is Mr Oosterhout

I'm offline now, good luck.

I think your idea that there were 2 Mrs Annetje Vanderbilts will turn out to be correct, need a good Vanderbilt history to check.

FamilySearch will no evidence suggests Gerrit Hendricks for Annetje Hendricks parents. She had a sister Femmetje Hendricks