https://www.geni.com/people/Hiram-Fee/6000000000113304469?through=6000000002478059849

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Hiram Calvin Fee

I am trying to nail down parents for Hiram. Found this https://sites.rootsweb.com/~seky/famfile/fee/hiramsarah.html and am wondering if the conflicting dates are accurate?

(No Name) The site looks really good but I’m freaking out that he has HOWARD children on Geni and I don’t see a bad merge in the revisions tab to undo.

Tagging the profile Elizabeth Taylor and the possible parents Julia Phoebe Slusher & Capt. Benjamin S Howard who are duplicate new profiles so the Main profiles need to be located.

Please forgive for ignorance on where to post. Thank-you for the directions. :) From what I can recall Sarah Elizabeth Taylor was an original ancestor added to my maternal side. She was incorrectly linked to Benjamin S Howard as father and Julia Phoebe Slusher "Schlosser" as mother or that was what I was told. I originally attempted to use this line for my DAR application and they said NO! Parents of Sarah Elizabeth incorrect. I lost my "Indian Princess" when her parents were changed.
Now I am searching around for more information on Hiram and his wife Sarah Blanton. I like to search Newspapers.com and FindAGrave, Ancestry, etc and cross reference the dates. The link I added in the beginning is very confusing. All the same people and names but conflicting dates.

Thomas Henry Taylor is your fourth great grandfather.
You
→ Marjorie Ann McLean
your mother → Gladys June (Allen) Pavel
her mother → Frederick B Allen
her father → Nancy Taylor Allen
his mother → Birdine S Taylor
her father → Thomas Henry Taylor
his father
Sarah Elizabeth Taylor is your fourth great grandmother.
You
→ Marjorie Ann McLean
your mother → Gladys June (Allen) Pavel
her mother → Frederick B Allen
her father → Nancy Taylor Allen
his mother → Birdine S Taylor
her father → Sarah Elizabeth Taylor
his mother Share this pathConfirm this relationship with DNA

Hiram Calvin Fee and this new information https://sites.rootsweb.com/~seky/famfile/fee/hiramsarah.html
do not match on dates.

Heather - for quick “unmerge this, disconnect that” the curators please assist discussion is how any curator can help. When it turns into a hair ball like this one did, a dedicated genealogy discussion tagging the profiles as we go along gives a nice history, attracts more researchers / profile managers / kibitzers, and curators can continue along with the easy stuff. Your family tree as you already know is not easy.

I knew you were on the Howard side, so I’m really icking out on that. Any chance there’s a lovely study like you found for Hiram? :):)

Do we want to go with what Findagrave has?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19266616 lists Parents: Julia Phebe (Slusher) Howard & Benjamin Howard m 1799 in Puckett's Creek, Harlan Co., KY. He was the son of Thomas H. Howard and Lettica (Letty) Durham)

Mind you - I’m not studying “hard.” But like the FindAGrave this FamilySearch tree seems decent:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/family/LX92-HZL

Can I go forward and conform the Howard’s to them and we’ll come back to the Fee / Blantons?

I now believe that is an incorrect assignment of parentage. I have made an edit to the profile suggesting that the connection between the two be severed.

On FindAGrave, that is.

Arrgh I’m reading you more carefully. It sounds like you have info from DAR that “Parents of Sarah Elizabeth incorrect” so the FindAGrave & FS does not accord with the DAR Records.

And at this point, we do not know the parents of Sarah Elizabeth (Howard) Taylor - which is why you are looking around the Fee / Blanton tree for clues. Which BTW is a reasonable thought.

So (No Name) It sounds like we should do this (and I’m open to other suggestions):

- lock Sarah Elizabeth to “no parents” despite what “everyone else says” until you / others feel comfortable with an identification; this was what we were trying to do before.

- I’ll fix the disconnected Howard’s and when I’m done with that try to help with what the Fee study leads. I recently did some Blanton family cleanup so maybe that will help too.

How can the Family Search Tree say the very incorrect, old connection that was disconnected? Am I missing "the forest for the trees" again? The parents are incorrect, right? Please help me. Arrrrrrrrrggggggg........
The point of the Fees/Blanton's is that they are the new parents.

Okay ........and any opinion on this ....https://sites.rootsweb.com/~seky/famfile/fee/hiramsarah.html and why the Hiram/Sarah Fee Blanton's do not match what is added in Geni?

DAR said that a patriot connection for Sarah Elizabeth Howard/Taylor and the Howard fellow was incorrect thus disconnecting Sarah from her supposed father Benjamin.

Faustine Darsey

I don’t see a Sarah Elizabeth Howard of the right age on that Fee study. We need someone born about 1800. The only Sarah Howard I see is the daughter of Rachel Fee born Feb 1862.

Sarah ‘Sallie’ Bingham (Daughter of Phebe Slusher & Benjamin Howard) married Elisha Green Bingham

According to https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162516218/julia-phebe-howard

The Geni profile has him as born about 1819 and as “Bringham.” His Birth date also affirms the DAR record as (presumably) his wife would have been around his age.

(No Name) The answer is that somehow Hiram Fee (1820 - 1863) became confused with Benjamin Howard (son of Lettie Hatchet Gray). Not only was the name typed over - the dates were not! That’s why it was looking to you like Sarah Elizabeth could have been a Fee. She wasn’t. I see the mixup in trees also, so maybe the corruption came from them. In any event you solved it by finding the real Fee / Blanton family, and I thank you very much for that work. I’ve locked the names and dates so it can’t happen again.

Hiram Fee’s parents were David & Lucy Noe Fee.

Erica Howton This is some good news! Thank-you profusely for taking the time to sort it out. I will keep plugging away .....looking for Sarah's family.

(No Name) I can’t find any documentation that she was Sarah Elizabeth. I did find and add to the profile verification that she was known as “Elizabeth Howard.”

"California, Pioneer Migration Index, Compiled 1906-1935," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPLQ-NWVG : 16 August 2019), Elizabeth Howard in entry for Benjamin Taylor, 9 Sep 1849; citing Emigration, California, United States, California State Library, Sacramento.

And her tombstone calls her Elizabeth:

https://images.findagrave.com/photos/2012/146/19266616_133806233181...

Doesn’t mean she wasn’t - but I’m thinking it’s better to lock her name as Elizabeth to reduce confusion until there’s a record to say otherwise.

Census has her (same woman) born in Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee on different reports. I have at least one of those great grandmothers too. You would think they knew. :)

file:///C:/Users/Olson/Downloads/St__Joseph_Weekly_Herald__St__Joseph__Missouri__30_Sep_1880__Thu_Page_1_BIRDINE_TAYLOR.pdf

Erica Howton

Had to struggle with this to get it over to you. I am able to highlight and enlarge from here, are you?
This is the best factual proof I have found so far. What do you think?

Wonderful find. Elizabeth Howard, daughter of Benjamin, born May 1800, [the exact date can be calculated from her tombstone]; married Thomas Taylor, “in” Harlan County (no date given). Facts given by her son Birdine Taylor!! This is precious. I’ve unlocked her so you can add Benjamin Howard; we just can’t assume “which” Benjamin as yet. There may be tax and census lists for Harlan County in 1800, 1810, 1820 which enumerate Howard households.

I went ahead and started a new Benjamin Howard for you and sent you a request to add yourself as manager. Normally I’d relinquish manager rights but after the corruption your previous work endured I’d like to keep an eye on.

I am hesitant to make any changes or update the profiles.
Once bitten, twice shy.

Correction ........several times bitten, VERY SHY

I hear that. Add the documentation, write notes, etc. We’ll keep it locked up as you go along.

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