Sir James Harrington, Kt. - Daughter born before him

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Something doesn't look right. Can someone take a look that knows more about this time frame?

https://books.google.com/books?id=gL3IR2IFuNwC&lpg=PA115&ot...

This source gives Katherine Harrington, daughter of Sir James Harrington, as married 1) to William Merfield of Hooley d 1520 2) Sir Thomas Burgh & was living in 1547. This doesn’t seem right to be a daughter of this Sir James.

The sources for Katherine Hulton name her as daughter of Sir James Harrington of Wolfedge, son of Nicholas, and living in 1500.

But the wives of Sir James Harrington "Esquire of Westby Lane" (son of Nicholas) do not seem to have had a daughter Katherine.

Everyone is confused.

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval...

“ Coddington (TAG 38:173) at gen 9 mentions that Richard Parr m. "Emme Hulton, daughter of Roger Hulton, of Hulton, co. Lancaster by his wife Katherine Harrington, daughter and heiress of Sir James Harrington of Wolfedge, Co Lancaster." The two sources given by Coddington do not mention the wife of Roger Hulton, but it is found in Foster's Lancashire Pedigrees. With more credibility, there is a thread from 2008 (search on "roger hulton") that explains that Katherine Harrington had two husbands, Roger being not mentioned in her mother's IPM, and not given in other published sources that I could find (see also Anc John Barber White, 1913). This apparently leads to pre-conquest royalty for Henry Gregory. See Anc Roots line #34-37. ”

And continuing to the next post ...

My research indicates that Katherine Harington, daughter and co-heiress of Sir James Harington, of Brixworth, Northamptonshire, Westleigh (in Leigh), Lancashire, etc., married (1st) William Mirfield/Myrfeld (born c. 1486-1520) and (2nd) Thomas Burgh (or Brugh), Knt. (died by 1537).

See Yorkshire Notes & Queries 1 (1888): 105–120 (re. Mirfield fam.), which is available at the following weblink:

https://books.google.com/books?id=8PQvAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA115

Also see the following Chancery Proceedings available at the online Discovery catalogue:

C 1/421/4; C 1/421/7; C 1/467/55; C 1/467/56; C 1/498/47 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

Benolte, Vis. of Lancashire 1533 2 (Chetham Soc. 110) (1882): 190 includes the following editorial note:

“Adam Hulton was eldest son of Roger Hulton of the Park, who had married Katherine, one of the daughters and coheirs of Sir James Harington. She was his widow in 16 Henry VII. (1500), as appears by an indenture quoted by Mr. Hulton. This alliance has been overlooked by the Editor in previous notices of the heiresses of Sir James Harington and of his wife Isabella - Katherine being, at the time of her mother’s death, named in her will as one of her heirs, and wife of William Mirfyld.” END OF QUOTE.

There is a discussion of the daughters of Sir James Harington, including Katherine, published in Benolte, Vis. of Lancashire 1533 1 (Chetham Soc. 98) (1876): xii–xv. This material may be viewed at the following weblink:

https://books.google.com/books?id=SwEVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR12

The editor identifies of only one husband for Katherine Harington, namely William Mirfyld, whereas the evidence I have cited above proves had two husbands. No mention is made of a marriage to Roger Hulton.

It seems that a certain Katherine Harington did marry a Roger Hulton. See, for example, St. George Vis. of London 1633–5 1 (H.S.P. 15) (1880): 400 (Hulton ped.) which reads as following:

"Roger Hulton of the Parke = Katherin da. of Sir James Harington Kt."

However, I doubt that she was the same person as the Katherine Harington who married William Mirfield and Sir Thomas Burgh. I say that because Roger Hulton's wife, Katherine, is known to have been a widow with at least four children in 1500 [see Benolte, Vis. of Lancashire 1533 2 (Chetham Soc. 110) (1882): 189–190], whereas the other Katherine Harington's first husband, William Mirfield, was born about 1486 (aged 22 in 1508). Without doing more research, my guess is that there is a generation difference between the two Katherine Harington's.

Lastly, I might mention that Benolte, Vis. of Lancashire 1533 1 (Chetham Soc. 98) (1876): xii–xv states that Katherine Harington's sister, Margaret Harington, married (1st) Christopher Hulton and (2nd) Thomas Pilkington. Benolte, Vis. of Lancashire 1533 2 (Chetham Soc. 110) (1882): 189–190 specifically quotes a record dated 1517 which mentions "the last wyll of Margett Pylkenton sumtyme 1ife of Cristoffe Hulton of ffarnworthe." The latter source pg. 190 adds that "it seems clear"that "there were two Margaret Haringtons, in different generations, each married to a Pilkington."

But Benolte, Vis. of Lancashire 1533 1 (Chetham Soc. 98) (1876): xiii-xiv appears to dispute that there were two Harington-Pilkington marriages, saying that "Margaret wife of Sir Thomas Pilkington was therefore Aunt to Margaret who married Christopher Hulton."

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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“ From Victoria County History: " A disposition for the marriage of Roger Hulton and Katherine Harrington related in the fourth degree was granted by Paul 11 and issued by the Bishop of Litchfield in August 1467." This date of 1467 makes me doubt that the Emma Hulton, daughter of Roger and Katherine Harrington, married Richard Parr. The Emma Hulton who married Richard Parr was probably the daughter of and earlier Roger Hulton. ”

Summarized here:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Harrington-7130

The statement from Coddington: Katherine, daughter and heiress of Sir James Harrington of Wolfedge, co. Lancashire, married Roger Hulton and had Emme Hulton.[1]

Douglas Richardson points out that Katherine d/o the above mentioned Sir James Harrington was married to two other men, ie. (1)William Mirfield (c. 1486-1520) and (2) Thomas Burgh (or Brugh), Knt. (d. by 1537).[2]

Richardson doubts they are the same person, because Roger Hulton's wife, Katherine, was the widow of Hulton with at least four children in 1500,[3] and the d/o Sir James was born about 1486,[4] making the two Katherines a generation apart.

British History Online. "Townships: Little, Middle and Over Hulton" Footnote 37 -or- Farrer, William, and Brownhill, John (editors). The Victoria history of the county of Lancaster. Publication date 1906-1914 p. 28 "Hulton Ped. 14. (A pedigree of the Hulton family, containing illustrative documents, prepared by the late William Adam Hulton of Penwortham and printed privately about 1840, has been used in these notes.) A dispensation for the marriage of Roger Hulton and Katherine Harrington, related in the fourth degree, was granted by Paul II, and issued by the Bishop of Lichfield in Aug. 1469; Lich. Epis. Reg. xii, fol. 149b. In 1500 Katherine, widow of Roger Hulton, had her dower in Denton. In 1473 Roger Hulton held the manor of Middlewood in Hulton of the lord of Manchester by the twentieth part of a knight's fee and puture, a rent of 4d. and castleward 7d.; Mamecestre, 497."

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol5/pp25-34#anchorn37

https://books.google.com/books?id=SwEVAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR15#v=onepag...

The Visitation of Lancashire and a Part of Cheshire: Made in the Twenty ... By Thomas Benolt, William Langton. Page xv

To adjust dates for the family, this is probably the most reliable compilation:

https://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00302985&tree=LEO

It seems as if Katherine (Harrington) Hulton belongs a generation earlier.

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The inquisition taken at the death of Sir James Harrington, 19th November, 14 Henry VII. (1498), gives the following names as his daughters and co-heirs, all of whom were of age at the time of his death. We take them in the order of succession in which they appear in that document.

1, Agnes. The settlements quoted in the inquisition post mortem of Isabella, widow of Sir James Harrington, who died 20th June, 10 Henry VIII. (1518), prove that Agnes' was the wife of Sir Thomas Assheton of Ashton-under-Lyne. By her he had an only daughter, Alice, already married to Richard Hoghton, and of the age of 22 in 1519, the date of the inquisition post mortem of Isabella her grandmother. The note in the History of the Chantries makes Sir Thomas 3 Our copy of the Visitation of 1567 names Agnes as daughter of Sir John Harrington of Westby. Assheton's wife to be Alice, re-married to Richard Hoghton, Kt.,4 whereas we have shown that Alice, wife to Hoghton, was the daughter of Sir Thomas Assheton by Agnes, daughter of Sir James Harrington. The note says of Agnes, "ob. s. p." Furthermore Sir James, in the copy given of his will, is represented as calling Sir Thomas Assheton's wife Alice, no doubt an error of the copyist.

2, Elizabeth, stated by Vincent to have been married to John Lumley, which is probably correct,' as we find that the last-named co-heir in the inquisition post mortem of Isabella, the widow of Sir James Harrington, is Henry Lumley of Ryssheton, in the county of Northampton, aged 22 years, his mother, as well as her sister Agnes, being evidently dead at that date.

3, Alice, named as the third daughter in the Visitation of 153j, being married to Ralph Standish of Standish. The wife of Ralph Standish was miscalled Ellen by Vincent, and so appears in Hopkinson's pedigree, improperly inserted as Dugdale's, at page 291 of vol. lxxxviii. of the Chetham series. She survived her mother, and is named in the inquisition post mortem of 1519 as being then 48 years of age.

4, Margaret, stated by Vincent to be married firstly to Christopher Hulton, and secondly to Thomas Pilkington. The first of these marriages is probably correctly given, for we find by the Visitation of 1533 that Roger Ashawe had married Jane, a daughter of Christopher Hulton, which Jane is named as one of Isabella's heirs, and of the age of 29. She is misrepresented in the Visitation of 1567 as a daugh
* Thus a young lady of 22 is here treated as having a second husband, the first being none other than her own father.
ter instead of a grand-daughter of Sir James Harrington, and confounded in the note with Johanna, wife of Edmund Assheton of Chadderton, of whom hereafter. The marriage attributed to Margaret with Sir Thomas Pilkington shows an utter disregard of dates on the part of Vincent. That marriage required a license on the score of consanguinity which was granted in 1442, and in the same year Sir William Harrington (father of Sir James and brother of Margaret) had a similar license to marry Elizabeth6 daughter of Edmund and sister of Sir Thomas Pilkington. Margaret wife of Sir Thomas Pilkington was therefore Aunt to Margaret who married Christopher Hulton.

5, Isabella, the wife of John Tresham, and named as 43 years of age in the inquisition taken at her mother's death. Here we agree with Vincent except as to the age of the lady who is stated by him to be 31.

6, Alianora, described in Sir Peter Leycester's History of the Family of Leycester of Tofte as the ninth daughter, and married to John Leycester of Tofte, who had by her lands in Northamptonshire. In the inquisition post mortem of her mother, Isabella, she is named as 50 years of age; this does not differ from Vincent.

7, Joan, or Johanna, called Jennett in the Visitation of 1567, married to Edmund Assheton of Chadderton, first cousin once removed to the husband of her older sister Agnes, and improperly, as we have seen, introduced into the Ashawe pedigree. She was dead before 1519, when James Assheton her son, aged 24, was found co-heir to his
5 Called in an earlier part of the note Margaret, daughter of Sir John Pilkington. grandmother, Isabella Harrington. In Vincent's account of the inquisition on Isabella, this James Assheton is improperly called the son of William Assheton.

8, Anne, or Anna, named in her mother's inquisition as wife of Sir William Stanley, Kt, and of the age of 41. In Ormerod's pedigree of the Stanleys of Hooton he makes Sir William Stanley to have married Anne, eldest daughter of Sir James Harrington. We have no disagreement with Vincent in this case.

9, Clemence, appears in the inquisition of 1519 as being 35 years of age, and wife of Henry Norres, identified as of Speke in the Visitation of 1567. Here again we agree with Vincent.

10, Katherine, named in the same inquisition as wife of William Mirfyld, and 33 years of age, but called by Vincent 52.
It should be mentioned that the inquisition on the death of Isabella is very difficult to decipher.

One of the executors named by Sir James Harrington, in addition to his wife Isabella, was "John Radcliffe of Hordsall C° Lancr, son and heir of William Radcliffe of Hordsall aforesaid, and brother of the said Isabel." If this is correctly copied, and the last and not treated as surplusage, Isabel would appear to have been the daughter of William Radcliffe; but the original document should be seen before it could be pronounced that she was not the daughter of Alexander, and sister of William, as stated in the note.

OK, I think I got Katherine Hulton as good as we know.

Erica Howton you are the best! Thank you.

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