Will the real Charles Henry SCHWENGER please stand up

Information contained in the overview for Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger

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INFO 1
This person - is NOT the wife of barbary - Katrina Necker
he is born 1921; and; died on date on the profile
he married in 1945 - and; immigrated in 1946
thanks; susan
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INFO 2
Charles Henry Schwenger
California Passenger Lists, 1893-1957
Birth
Circa 1921
Origin
Origin
Departure from
Place
Ship
Ship
Arrival
Day Month 1946 - Place
Relatives
Relatives
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INFO 3
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Charles Henry Schwenger
Australia, New South Wales Marriage Index, 1788-1966
New
Marriage
1945 - Place
Registration
Registration
Bride
Name of spouse

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INFO 4 Marie Sophia Schwenger
mentioned in the record of Charles Henry Schwenger

Name: Marie Sophia Schwenger
Sex: Female
Son: Charles Henry Schwenger

Other information in the record of Charles Henry Schwenger
from Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name: Charles Henry Schwenger
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 14 Aug 1929
Event Place: Halton, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 67
Marital Status: Married
Ethnicity: German
Race: White
Race: German
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1863
Birthplace: Stuttgart Germany
Death Age: 67 years
Mother's Name:
Marie Sophia Schwenger
Record Number: 1544
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Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 comments on the information contained in the overview
INFO 1, 2 and 3 refer to Charles Henry Schwenger who was born in 1920, died in 1985 and married in 1945 in Australia to Elena Helen Schwenger. He appears to be the grandson of the profile in question.
I will remove these comments from the overview of Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger

INFO 4 - appears to be an extract from the Ontario Death Records
Charles Henry SCHWENGER
born 15 March 1863 Stuttgart, Germany
died 14 August 1929 Halton, Ontario, Canada
Age 67
married
Mother - Marie Sophia SCHWENGER

This info differs from the information on the profile Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger - which has a death date of 11/9/1929 Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Copies of the death certificate have been uploaded to Geni
Index - https://media.geni.com/p13/e1/cf/e9/83/5344485cf30391ec/death_certi...
Certificate - https://media.geni.com/p13/13/42/d1/40/5344485cf303342f/record-imag...

https://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/salier18820708_01.html

SS Salier from Bremen, Germany to New York 8/7/1882

Carl SCHWENGER age 19
Heinz SCHWEIGER age 22

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What is Heinz's relationship to Carl?

I think that Charles Henry now only has 1 profile and he has the correct relationships.

I have left his father as unknown.

Supporting evidence will need to be supplied in order to connect him to a particular father.

on sunday the 27th; i willl look at this

there are a lot of notes on profile of:

Christina Maria Schwenger
about christina maria schwenger

so, i will SORT out truth from fiction
by looking them all up

there was a woman with the name of:
Christina Maria Schwenger
she shows up on canadian census
with a daughter - minnie
a son - karl
perhaps a 3rd son named heinz
- who might of traveled
with carl heinrich schwenger]
and, a 4th son - (but; THAT MIGHT of been
carl heinrich schwenger)
who NOW has a different mother; and; an unkown father

i NOTICE that fritz hetzinger ?
does NOT have a birthdate
that syncs him, as, being the other man

who was 22, when he was 18 ? (approx)
heinz schwenger wasrecorded on boat
as schweinger

SS Salier Bremen, Germany to New York 8 July 1882 DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK

120 Carl (CHAS) Schwenger 19 m none Germany U.S.A. Steerage

181 Heinz Schweiger * 22 m ????? Germany U.S.A.
Steerage

http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/salier18820708_01.html

(i believe i found the burial spot of minnie;
so; let me detail this first to a piece of paper; all this info - and, then sort it out on sunday

happy christmas to you; thank you for all your help

many blessings; susan
along with the research; then attach research to profiles

on sunday the 27th; i willl look at this

there are a lot of notes on profile of:

Christina Maria Schwenger
about christina maria schwenger

so, i will SORT out truth from fiction
by looking them all up

there was a woman with the name of:
Christina Maria Schwenger
she shows up on canadian census
with a daughter - minnie
a son - karl
perhaps a 3rd son named heinz
- who might of traveled
with carl heinrich schwenger]
and, a 4th son - (but; THAT MIGHT of been
carl heinrich schwenger)
who NOW has a different mother; and; an unkown father

i NOTICE that fritz hetzinger ?
does NOT have a birthdate
that syncs him, as, being the other man

who was 22, when he was 18 ? (approx)
heinz schwenger wasrecorded on boat
as schweinger

SS Salier Bremen, Germany to New York 8 July 1882 DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK

120 Carl (CHAS) Schwenger 19 m none Germany U.S.A. Steerage

181 Heinz Schweiger * 22 m ????? Germany U.S.A.
Steerage

http://immigrantships.net/v4/1800v4/salier18820708_01.html

(i believe i found the burial spot of minnie;
so; let me detail this first to a piece of paper; all this info - and, then sort it out on sunday

happy christmas to you; thank you for all your help

many blessings; susan
along with the research; then attach research to profiles

i have put all the info in
however; with locked profiles
i do NOT seem to be able to
1) view photographs
2) add photographs
and; add more research
kindly, unlock them
thank you

fritz hetzinger - schwenger (shares a mother with him / and, the mother died in child birth when he was born - mother was maria sophia schwenger - hetzinger
(she was married to hetzinger)
kathryn will attach proof of this - thank you

DNA testing might prove this:
father of Charles Henry Schwenger

there is a story; I do remember hearing
something from one of my Uncles that Charles mother Maria
was a chamber maid for Nepolian III
and that he was the father
and that's why he was sent to Canada
when he was only 17 ?.

Have you ever heard that? Bill Schwenger

yes, i heard my dad, aunt bertha
& grandpa albert schwenger talk about that too
(there is a photo of him / and, a photo of napoleon,
and, they sure could be son /father
~ susan lynne schwenger

- so; i am trying to determine if she in fact did work for him
and, i am getting my dna marker stuff done

schweiger graves - minnie and brother / are written on the tombstone with 'hebrew'
THEREFORE, we know, our schwenger was NOT jewish
so, they were on the same ship

Minnie Unknown-Schwenger (wife of Samuel)
Samuel Schweiger
Heniz Schweiger (brother of samuel) and; (sister-in-law of Minnie)
- he is NOT the son of Maria Sophie (sofia) schwenger :)
(kathryn is wrong)
but; fritz hetzinger is - and; i fix that one
he was born; and; she died in childbirth in 1870

How did Fritz suddenly become born 5 years earlier?
What are the sources for these dates?

his mother died in child-birth having him in 1870

ALSO, IT WAS NOT FRITZ AND CHARLES WHO TRAVEL TOGETHER TO CANADA
(AS, KATHRYN, had stated)

SS Salier from Bremen, Germany to New York 8/7/1882

Carl SCHWENGER age 19
known on geni.com as Carl Heinrich aka Charles Henry Schwenger

Heinz SCHWEIGER age 22

that travel on the manifest of SS Salier from Bremen, Germany
to New York 8/7/1882

carl was lutheran

- and; heinz Schweiger - was jewish (definitely NOT brothers)

Heinz is the brother of Samuel Schweinger
- who is married to Minnie Schweinger
(tombstones / census - etc., prove those dates)
everything on all profiles; seems correct now
thank you / susan