Kung på Öland Ingemund Johan Sverkersson - King of Öland???

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6/20/2021 at 9:14 PM

Öland never had a "king" what should be the source for this?

6/20/2021 at 11:38 PM

A very strange and incorrect title. Probably a confusion. There has been dukes of Öland. Ruler of Öland would be something else.

But Ingemund Johan Sverkersson didn’t have anything in particular to do with Öland if I remember right.

6/21/2021 at 2:49 AM

Indeed very strange. Johan Sverkersson did exists, while I think his claimed son Nils Ingemundsson Scherembeke has errors. There was a Fogde Christian to Öland, but he was not a Scherembeke, but related to that family, If I remember right, his mother was a Scherembeke, and he inheritied a mofified version of the Scherembeke coats of arms..

Ill try to look more into this issue, and have been offered assistance from Private User and maybe this can be sorted out.

I wrote years ago an article on Wikipedia about Christiern från Öland, (which I guess you can translate), and I think its this person that someone has confused, and made descendant to to the royal dynasty of Sverker: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristiern_fr%C3%A5n_%C3%96land

6/21/2021 at 2:50 AM

Im copying in @Private User

6/21/2021 at 3:15 AM

Ulf martinsson is also in the knowledge base.

6/21/2021 at 3:19 AM

It’s probably a confusion with Kristiern de Ölandia as you write!

We should remove the King of Öland, it’s actually embarrasing.

6/21/2021 at 3:21 AM

Also Private User

6/21/2021 at 6:59 AM

I just removed the title Kung på Öland since it seems incorrect. Please start a discussion for adding an appropriate title.

6/21/2021 at 2:37 PM

I think there’s some confusion on Johan Sverkersson profile, because there are two family members who has the same name of Johan Sverkersson, plus I don’t know how the name Ingemund was added to his name. Per Project MedLands. Here is the information from Project MedLands and Swedish Biographical Dictionary, which these sources are listed in his profile. To reduce confusion I changed his profile name to Johan I, King of Sweden.

There was another family member also named JOHAN Sverkersson, who was the son of King Sverker I & his first wife ULVHILD Haakonsdotter, per Project MedLands. See below. He was never a king. Below is the other family member named Johan Sverkersson. (See below)

King Sverker I & his first wife ULVHILD Haakonsdotter had four children

1. JOHAN Sverkersson (-murdered [1153/54]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. He appears to have been his father's designated heir but was killed (by peasants?) some years before his father's death[128].

This should be the profile of Johan Sverkersson who succeeded in 1216 as JOHAN I King of Sweden, crowned [1219]. The Icelandic Annals record the succession in 1216 of "Johannes Svercheri filius" who reigned for six years[146]. The Icelandic Annals record the death in 1222 of "Johannes Sverkeri filus rex Suecorum"[147].

Project MedLands has him listed as the son of Son of Sverker II of Sweden and Ingegerd Birgersdotter av Bjelbo, Queen of Sweden. Geni is currently showing his mother as Bengta Ebbesdatter Galen, Queen of Sweden, which is incorrect, but her profile is locked by Geni Creators, so we need to get a Geni creator to change his mother to Ingegerd Birgersdotter av Bjelbo, Queen of Sweden. (See below)

'''JOHAN Sverkersson''' (1201-Visingsö 10 Mar 1222, bur Alvastra Abbey). Snorre names "King Jon" as the son of "the Swedish king Sorkver" and his wife Ingegerd[142]. Morkinskinna names “King Jón” as son of “King Sørkvir”[143]. The Saga of King Sverre records the death of "Earl Birgi Brosa" in the same year as Sverre King of Norway [in 1202], commenting that "the Swedes then took Jon son of King Sorkvi…one year old"[144]. Fagrskinna names “Sverkir konungr, fadir Jóans konungs” as son of “Kristinar er átti Karl konungr Sverkissunr”[145]. '''He succeeded in 1216 as JOHAN I King of Sweden, crowned [1219].''' The Icelandic Annals record the succession in 1216 of "Johannes Svercheri filius" who reigned for six years[146]. The Icelandic Annals record the death in 1222 of "Johannes Sverkeri filus rex Suecorum"[147].

Here is the Geneology of this family from Project MedLands for the family of Sverker.

==[https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWEDEN.htm#SverkerIIdied1210 KINGS of SWEDEN - FAMILY of SVERKER]

'''Project MedLands Sweden'''

'''SVERKER,''' son of --- (-murdered 24/25 Dec 1156). Sverker's parentage is not known. According to Saxo Grammaticus, he was "of modest origins"[122]. Under King in Östergötland. '''He was installed as I King of Sweden in [1133/34] in succession to Magnus Nielsson of Denmark.'''
'''married firstly as her third husband, ULVHILD Haakonsdotter,''' widow first of INGE II Halstensson King of Sweden and secondly of NIELS King of Denmark, daughter of HAAKON Finsson & his wife --- (-before 1143). Her second marriage is referred to by Saxo Grammaticus who states that "Ulvildam Noricam", wife of "Nicolaus", was secretly abducted by King Sverker but their "connection was accepted as a marriage"[123]. Fagrskinna names “Úlfhildr dróttning, dóttir Hákonar Finnssunar Hárekssunar or Þjóttu” as mother of “Karl konungs”, adding that she had first married “Nikolás Danakonungr”, secondly “Ingi Sviakonungr Hallsteinssunr” and thirdly “Sverkir konungr Kolssunr”[124]. '''married secondly (after 1143) as her third husband, RYKSA Swantosława of Poland,''' widow firstly of MAGNUS I "den Stærke/the Strong" King of Denmark and secondly of [VOLODAR], daughter of BOLESŁAW III "Krzywousty/Wrymouth" Prince of Poland & his second wife Salome von Berg-Schelklingen ([1116/17]-after 25 Dec 1155). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Rikissam" as the only daughter of "dux Vergescelaus de Polonia" and his wife Agnes, specifying that "primo fuit regina Suecie", that by her second husband "regi Russie nomine Musuch" she was mother of "Sophiam reginam Dacie et Rikissam", the latter marrying "imperatoris Castelle Alfunso"[125]. This appears to be a confused account which contradicts other sources in many aspects. She was known as RIKISSA in Sweden. Her third marriage is confirmed by Knytlíngasaga which records that [her son] “Knúti konúngi” fled to ”Sörkvir konúngr átti Rikizu, módur Þeirra Knúts konúngs ok Súffiu” after being defeated by King Svend III[126]. The marriage is also confirmed by the Liber Census Daniæ which records that the estate of [her son by King Sverker] “Bulizlaus” was inherited by his sister Sofia Queen of Denmark [Ryksa’s daughter by her second husband][127].

'''King Sverker I & his first wife ULVHILD Haakonsdotter had four children'''

* 1. '''JOHAN Sverkersson''' (-murdered [1153/54]). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. He appears to have been his father's designated heir but was killed (by peasants?) some years before his father's death[128].
* 2. '''KARL Sverkersson''' (-murdered Visingsö 12 Apr [1166], bur Alvastra Abbey). His parentage is stated by Saxo Grammaticus[129]. He succeeded in 1161 as KARL I King of Sweden. '''married (1163) KRISTIN Stigsdatter [Hvide], daughter of STIG Tokesen "Hvitaleder/White leather" [Hvide] & his wife Margrete Knudsdatter of Denmark.''' Snorre names (in order) "the Danish king Valdemar…and daughters Margaret, Christina and Catherine" as the children of "Canute Lavard" & his wife, recording that Margrete married "Stig Hvitaled" and that their daughter was "Christina, married to the Swedish king, Karl Sorkvison, and their son was king Sorkver"[130]. Fagrskinna names (in order) “Valdimarr konungr ok Kristin ok Katerin or Margareta” as children of “Knútr lávardr, bródir Eiriks eimuna” and his wife, noting that Margrete married “Stigr hvitaledr”, father of “Nikoláss ok Kristinar er átti Karl konungr Sverkissunr”[131]. Morkinskinna records that “Karl Sørkvisson king of the Swedes” married “Kristín” daughter of “Stígr hvítaledr” and his wife Margret[132].

''' King Karl & his wife KRISTIN Stigsdatter had one child'''

>>>* a) '''SVERKER Karlson'''(-killed in battle Gestilren 17 Jul 1210, bur Alvastra Abbey). Snorre names "king Sorkver" as son of "the Swedish king, Karl Sorkvison" & his wife[133]. Fagrskinna names “Sverkir konungr, fadir Jóans konungs” as son of “Kristinar er átti Karl konungr Sverkissunr”[134]. '''He succeeded in 1196 as SVERKER II "den yngre/the younger" King of Sweden.''' The Saga of King Sverre records the accession of "Sorkvi Karlsson" after the death of "King Knut of Sweden"[135]. “Swerco filius Karoli Regis rex Sweorum” donated property to the monks of Nydala by charter dated to [1196/1210][136]. The Icelandic Annals record the battle in 1208 between "Svercherum Caroli filius" and "Ericum Canuti filium, Suecorum reges"[137]. Deposed 1208. '''married firstly BENGTE Ebbesdatter Galen,''' daughter of EBBE Sunesen [Galen] from Knardrup & his wife ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. '''married secondly INGEGÄRD Birgersdotter, daughter of BIRGER Bengtsson "Brosa" Jarl in Sweden & his wife Brigida of Norway (-after 1210).''' Snorre names (in order) "Ingegerd…married to the Swedish king Sorkver [and] a second daughter…Kristin and a third Margaret" as the daughters of "Earl Birger Brose" & his wife[138].

'''King Sverker II & his first wife BENGTE Ebbesdatter had two children'''

>>>>>>* i) '''KARL Sverkersson''' (-murdered in the mountains near Trondheim 1198). The Saga of King Sverre records the marriage of "Karlson of King Sorkvi" and "Ingibiorg daughter of King Sverri"[139]. '''married INGEBORG Sverresdatter,''' of Norway, daughter of SVERRE King of Norway & his first wife Astrid Rösdatter.
>>>>>>* ii) '''HELENA Sverkersdotter''' (-after 1240). A charter dated 1237 refers to the marriage of “S. Fulconis ducis filius” and “E. Suerchonis Regis filia” after her abduction from Vreta convent[140]. '''married (before 1237) SUNE Folkason Jarl in Sweden, son of FOLKER Birgersson [Folkunge] Jarl in Sweden & his wife (-1247).'''

'''King Sverker II & his second wife INGEGÄRD Birgersdotter had two children'''

>>>>>>* iii) '''KARL Sverkersson''' (-1213). The Icelandic Annals record the death in 1213 of "Carolus Svercheri filius"[141]. If King Sverker was his father, Karl must have been from the king´s second marriage, after the death of his older half-brother of the same name.]
>>>>>>* iv) '''JOHAN Sverkersson''' (1201-Visingsö 10 Mar 1222, bur Alvastra Abbey). Snorre names "King Jon" as the son of "the Swedish king Sorkver" and his wife Ingegerd[142]. Morkinskinna names “King Jón” as son of “King Sørkvir”[143]. The Saga of King Sverre records the death of "Earl Birgi Brosa" in the same year as Sverre King of Norway [in 1202], commenting that "the Swedes then took Jon son of King Sorkvi…one year old"[144]. Fagrskinna names “Sverkir konungr, fadir Jóans konungs” as son of “Kristinar er átti Karl konungr Sverkissunr”[145]. '''He succeeded in 1216 as JOHAN I King of Sweden, crowned [1219].''' The Icelandic Annals record the succession in 1216 of "Johannes Svercheri filius" who reigned for six years[146]. The Icelandic Annals record the death in 1222 of "Johannes Sverkeri filus rex Suecorum"[147].
* 3. '''INGEGÄRD''' (-1172, bur Vreta Abbey). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. '''married (1156) KNUD III Magnussen,''' Joint King of Denmark, son of MAGNUS I "den Stærke/the Strong" King of Denmark & his wife Ryksa [Swantosława] of Poland ([1129]-murdered Roskilde 9 Aug 1157).
* 4. '''INGEGÄRD''' (-1204). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Prioress at Vretakloster 1164.

'''King Sverker I & his second wife RYKSA Swantosława of Poland had one child'''

* 5. '''BURISLAV''' (-before 1173). His parentage is indicated by the following document: the Liber Census Daniæ records that the estate of “Bulizlaus”, son of King Sverker, was inherited by his [half-]sister Sofia Queen of Denmark[148]. Contender for the throne [1168/73].

'''King Sverker had one [illegitimate] son by an unknown mistress'''

* 6. '''KOL''' The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.

Also here is the information on Johan Sverkersson, b 1201, d 10 March 1222 at Visingsö, Jönk. Parents: King Sverker Karlsson of Sweden and Ingegerd Birgersdtr (Folkungaätten) from the Swedish Biographical Dictionary. Hope this clears up the confusion on this profile.

==[https://sok.riksarkivet.se/sbl/mobil/Artikel/12098 Johan Sverkersson, King]

Johan Sverkersson, b 1201, d 10 March 1222 at Visingsö, Jönk. Parents: King Sverker Karlsson of Sweden and Ingegerd Birgersdtr (Folkungaätten; above p. 7). Jarl 02 — late 08, king of Sweden at the earliest 16, crowned 19 before 7 Aug in Linköping. - Unmarried.

Johan is the first sv king whose year of birth is known. The contemporary Icelandic note that after his grandfather Birger Brosas (bd 4) death he became an earl when he was only a winter old, is combined with a wry comment that the swears then had a pantsless earl. This has been regarded as a reverberation of the harm it may have caused in some circles, that King Sverker in this way made his infant son the successor of the dominant Birger Brosse, apparently to secure the order of the throne within his family and reduce the importance of the earl. Here, one of the reasons for the following development of events has been seen, when J's uncles, Birger's sons Knut and Folke (bd 16), in Sverker's place, Erik paid tribute to the holy grandson Erik Knutsson, with whom they became earls in succession.

When J a few years later after Erik Knutsson's death became Swedish king, this caused the deceased brother-in-law King Valdemar "victory" of Denmark to protest at the Pope that he, with the support of certain unnamed grandmothers by force, empowered Sweden with the suppression of Eric's posthumous son. with the same name, Valdemar's niece. This is stated in a letter dated 7 Aug 1219, by which the Pope, after J's coronation, ordered the Northern German bishops of Lübeck, Schwerin and Ratzeburg to investigate whether the coronation had taken place after Valdemar's protest. If so, they would oblige the Archbishop of Uppsala and one of the bishops assisting at the coronation to personally appoint, together with the representatives of the other Swedish bishops, to stand in Rome to answer. By another papal letter, the three North German bishops received orders on the same day to seek settlement.

On the day when J was crowned in early 1219, he issued a letter of privilege to the bishops, which meant a renewal of the father's letter of privilege of 1200 and to some extent an extension of it. At the same time, a gift letter was added to the link-opening bishop Karl, in which he mentions him as his chancellor, who has supported him in both hardship and complicity, and calls him his relative (cognatus). Karl was the nephew of J's grandfather Birger smile. As witnesses, the letter mentions the Archbishop and three bishops as well as five worldly great men, most notably the Earl Karl the Deaf, who are thought to be identical to a brother of Birger Brosa. Among the other four were Karl the deaf son Ulf, later known as Earl under the name Ulf phase, as well as Bishop Karl's brothers Lawman Eskil (bd 14) and Bengt. It is thus clear that the great men who, according to the aforementioned epistle, made J king,

The year after Valdemar's familiar crusade to the Reval for J 1220, according to the contemporary Latvian priest Henry's chronicle with the Earl Karl the deaf, several bishops and a large one here to the west coast of Estonia ("Rotalia"). There he took his headquarters at Leal, from where the Swedes invaded the country, baptized and built churches. After peaceful contact was established with the Danes in Reval, J returned to Sweden. Shortly thereafter, the islanders conquered Leal, whereby both the Earl and Bishop Karl fell, according to sv annals 8 Aug.

The Royal Chronicle of the West Göteborg Act, which is believed to have been created just a few decades after J's death, and whose authors seem to have sympathized with his family, states that he was very "benevolent" and that all of Sweden mourned him. According to the same source, he is buried in Alvastra as well as his ancestors. He was the last male member of his family.

6/21/2021 at 11:39 PM

Hi Gerene!

6/21/2021 at 11:42 PM

From what I see there probably has been a lot of mix ups in the lines. And all this interwoven with different erroneous pedigrees.

7/11/2021 at 1:35 AM

If not a valid source state he was son to Johan Sverkersson, I think he should be unlinked from him

Private User
7/11/2021 at 11:29 AM

Nils Ingemundsson unlinked from wrong father Johan.

7/12/2021 at 12:58 AM

Thank you Private User

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