R. Yoel Feivish Margolis-Schtengen - It seems to me that there is a chain of mistakes in the continuity of the family tree

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According to all the sources I could find, his father was Rabbi Yitzchak and they were the descendants of

Eleazar ben Yehudah of Worms (Rokeach)
Dr. Wonder writes (section 12) that there is one and only one source that claims that his father was Rabbi Yekutiel Zalman A.B.D. BAR, but the claim seems completely wrong

People here connected Rabbi Yekutiel as the father of Rabbi Yitzchak and further continued the family tree generations back (including through the women), when I could not find even one source that would support their claim.
Does anyone have a source that supports what is currently being written in Geni? ..

Haim,
I agree with you completely. I asked the same question when the change was made a few years ago and got no response. Originally the this tree had Yoel Fievish as the father of Menachem Mendel and Yitzchok as the father of Yoel Fievish and then a hypothetical tree of unknowns connecting back to Elezar of Worms. The change was made unilaterally without anyone consulting the managers. That’s why I locked some of the associated profiles to stop unsubstantiated changes.

Additionally I have voiced unanswered concerns about the connection to Elezar of Worms. The only sources I have seen indicate Elezar had two daughters and one son. Of course he could have had other children lost to history. The sources are unclear if his son was actually killed in the Worms pogroms or just injured and if he had any children. The only source I have seen that categorically claims Schtengen-Margolioth descent from Elezar of Worms is in the preface to one work by Elezar Rokeach of Amsterdam. If there is more I would love to see it.

If there is enough agreement, I am also happy to correct this tree back to the way it was.

Seth Morgulas

Seth Morgulas (Geni Curator)

Thank you very much for your reply!

From what I've read, to
R' Menachem Mendel Margolioth, ABD Przemyśl and Pińczów

He had two wives, the first (from whom all his sons were born) was
Sheindel Margolis-Stengen, 1st wife, Menachem Mendel
And his second wife (from whom I am his descendant) was:
2nd wife, Menachem Mendel Margolios-Stengen
From her he had only daughters
His father was Rabbi Yoel Feivish STANGEN
By the way, I read that Rabbi Menachem Mendel never wrote the last name Margaliot, only his real last name STANGEN, his sons adopted their mother's last name: Margaliot
Yoel's father was almost 100% likely to be Rabbi Yitzchak...as for me, all the other things written in Geni are either a mistake, or people mixed things up incorrectly, and in my opinion all the details from Rabbi Yitzchak's father onwards (in earlier generations) should be deleted
I must also point out, that there are other mistakes regarding the identity of my ancestors, on the way to Meharal from Prague...

In a few weeks, Naftali Vokstein is supposed to publish the second part of the article about my grandfather's family, I really hope that he will address this as well, and no, I know where the mistakes are, and I will correct them at a later date

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