Joseph Wall

Origins

THOMAS1 PITMAN was born probably in England about 1614, based on the age he gave in a Surry County court appearance. Thomas Pitman died in Surry County sometime after 7 Jan 1686 when he testified in court.

He was not the husband of Lydia (Gray) Judkins. That was his son Thomas Pitman II.

This Thomas' 3 wives were:

1) Frances (maiden name unknown)

2) Unknown widow Wall (NOT Frances Wall as those names seem to have been merged in error) based on a step-son of Thomas' named Joseph Wall

3) Martha who was widow of both Thomas Atkinson and Thomas Gwaltney.

Biography

Extracted from "Descendants of Thomas Pitman (1614-abt 1686) of Surry County, Virginia" (document attached)

Generation 1

1. THOMAS1 PITMAN was born probably in England about 1614, based on the age he gave in a Surry County court appearance. Thomas Pitman died in Surry County sometime after 7 Jan 1686 when he testified in court.

Prior to 1635 probably in England, he married (1) FRANCES (---), who appears only on one deed. There is no record of her birth or death, but she was most likely deceased in Surry County by 1666.

Thomas married (2) UNKNOWN, the relict of Mr. Wall in Surry County. This unknown spouse had one child, Joseph Wall, by her prior marriage to Mr. Wall.

Thomas married (3) MARTHA (---), the relict of Thomas Atkinson and Thomas Gwaltney, in Surry County before 7 Nov 1667. Martha was born about 1618 and had children by her marriage to Thomas Atkinson but none by her marriage to Thomas Gwaltney. There is no record of Martha’s death.

Thomas1 Pitman died shortly after 7 Jan 1686 when he testified in court. There are no more references to a Capt. Pitman in the Surry County tithables after 1683. He did not leave a will or an estate record.

Child of Thomas Pitman and his first wife Frances (---) was:

• 2. i. THOMAS2 PITMAN, b. probably in England about 1636, m. (1) UNKNOWN in Surry County, and (2) LYDIA (---)in Surry County before 10 Sep 1672, and d. in Surry County by 1692.

Stepchild of Thomas Pitman, born of his second wife, unknown, by her first husband Mr. Wall was:

• 3. JOSEPH1 WALL, b. about 1649, m. (1) SUSANNAH KILPATRICK in Surry County by 1676 and (2) ALICE (---) in Surry County by 14 Jul 1718, and d. in Surry County after 19 Apr 1727.

Stepchildren of Thomas Pitman, born of his third wife, Martha (---), by her first husband Thomas Atkinson were:

• 4. THOMAS1 ATKINSON, b. about 1648, m. SUSANNAH (---) in Surry County, and d. in Isle of Wight County after 19 Jan 1687/8.
• 5. JOHN ATKINSON, b. about 1652, m. ANN HOLLEMAN in Surry County, and d. in Isle of Wight County after 17 Apr 1717.
• 6. JAMES ATKINSON, b. about 1656, m. MARY HOLLEMAN in Surry County, and d. in Isle of Wight County after 28 Jul 1723..

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• Residence: Surry, Virginia, British Colonial America - 7 October 1671
  • Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Jan 27 2025, 2:56:04 UTC

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References

1. Descendents of Joseph Wall by Eric D Wall There are some errors (susannah kirkpatrick vs susannah pittman) but this is a great work of love. https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/w/a/l/Eric-D-Wall/GENE6-0001.html
2. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GF2F-28W#
3. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/wall/default.aspx?section=yresults Where The Record Is Found Joseph Wall's mother was probably a Wall, or his mother later married a Wall, and gave Joseph his Wall name. would say, Joseph Wall was called son in law of Thomas Pittman in an early record, but Joseph's only known wife was Susanna Kilpatrick. Son in law at that time could mean stepson or even illegitimate son. The common thinking changed from son in law to stepson, and then DNA came along, and Joseph Wall has the DNA of Thomas Pittman. Briefly, it seems clear that Joseph Wall was actually the illegitimate son of Thomas Pittman. A careful study of all the records available and the Pittman and Wall DNA will seems to confirm this beyond any reasonable doubt. You are welcome to view the YDNA on this line at ftdna. Michael Mackeney resides on an adjoining property to Joseph Wall; on tithable lists for Surry County, he is listed in 1668 as Michael Michany, 69 Michell Micanere