Burial

Lydia Hucsteppe Tilden Hatherly
BIRTH
11 Feb 1587
Tenterden, Ashford Borough, Kent, England
DEATH
31 Jul 1672 (aged 85)
Scituate, Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA
BURIAL
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Lydia is the daughter of Stephen Hucsteppe (and a number of other spellings including Huckster) and Winifred Hatch.

She married Nathanial Tylden/Tilden about 1603 (some say 1606/07) in Tenterden, Kent, England.

It's known that Nathaniel came to the new colony sometime in or more likely, before 1628. He has the first (known) recorded land purchase in what would become Scituate, from Henry Merritt in 1628. At some point after that he returned to England for his family.

In March, 1634 Nathaniel, Lydia, their seven children (more to come) and seven servants set sail on the Hercules, from Sandwich, Kent to Massachusetts Bay Colony. Nathaniel Tilden, the first name on the passenger list of the Hercules, had been mayor of Tenterden in 1622 and his immediate family had held similarly official roles in Tenterden and the surrounding community.

Lydia married again about 1642, to another leading citizen of Scituate, the recently widowed, Timothy Hatherly/Hatherlee. His 3rd wife had died about 1640/41 and he had no known living children at the time of his marriage to Lydia.
Family Members
Parents
Stephen Huckstepp
1555–1633

Winifred Hatch Hucsteppe
1556–1592

Spouses

Elder Nathaniel Tilden
1583–1641 (m. 1603)

Timothy Hatherly
1588–1666 (m. 1642)

Children
Thomas Tilden
1608–1618

Mary Tilden Bassett
1610–1690

Joseph Tilden
1612–1612

Sarah Tilden Sutton
1613–1677

Deacon Joseph Tilden
1615–1670

Stephen Tilden
1616–1619

Thomas Tilden
1618–1704

Winifred Tilden
1620–1627

Lydia Tilden
1624–1624

Stephen Tilden
1629–1711

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Named as Lydia in the will of her second husband, Timothy Hatherly, dated Sept 1664.

Many LDS Ancestral Files seem to have her as Lydia Bourne, daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth. No hint of a standard source seems to exist. This is certainly incorrect because Lydia was born in about the same year as her alleged father Thomas Bourne.

• Huckstep Family History

Lydia Huckstep

Lydia was born abt. 1587 in Tenterden, Kent, England and died in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts. She married Nathaniel Tilden abt. 1606 in Tenterden, Kent, England. He was born 7/28/1583 in Tenterden, Kent, England and died on 5/25/1641 in Scituate, Plymouth, Massachusetts. He was buried in Plymouth, Massachusetts.

The 2 known children of Lydia Huckstep and Nathaniel Tilden are:

1. Sarah Tilden
2. Mary Tilden b. Abt. 1608

Lydia had cousins, Thomas and William Hatch and Elizabeth Hatch Sean Stockbridge who also came to New England in the Hercules and settled in Scituate.

She was a widow when she married Timothy Hatherly.

1587 - Lidia Hucstepp, Daught. of Steve Hucsteppe bapt. ye 11th of february" [1587-8]. She married Nathaniel Tilden and emigrated with him to New England 1635. -- NEHGR 1913, p. 47.

Lydia married secondly Timothy Hatherly. Timothy Hatherly died 24 October 1666. His will, dated 12 December 1664, proved 30 October 1666, named his wife Lydia (widow of Nathaniel Tilden); Edward Jenkins, his wife and children (his niece's family); Nicholas Wade, his wife and children (another niece's family); Susanna, wife of William Brooks, and children (niece); Timothy and Elizabeth Foster (niece's children); Thomas Hanford (nephew); Fear, the wife of Samuel Baker, and the other three children of Isaac Robinson, John, Isaac, and Mercy (children of a deceased niece); Lydia Garrett, his wife's daughter, and her four children; George Sutton, his wife and children; the wife of William Bassett, his wife's daughter; widow Preble, his wife's daughter; Lydia Lapham; Thomas Lapham; Stephen Tilden; Nicholas Baker; "my man Thomas Savory"; and Lydia Hatch, daughter of William Hatch; with his friend Joseph Tilden as executor (MD 16:158). (Plymouth Colony, by Eugene Aubrey Stratton).

From Family Search

He [Nathaniel Tilden] died in 1641, with a will dated 25 May 1641. Under the will, he devised a house in Tenterden, Kent to his wife Lydia and made bequests to his wife; to sons Joseph, Thomas and Stephen; to daughters Judith, Mary, Sarah and Lydia; and to servants Edward Cinkins and Edward Tarse. . The inventory taken on 31 Jul 1641, which was untotalled and did not include any real estate in the the Plymouth Colony, did included "ten stocks or swarms of bees," perhaps the earliest notice of the keeping of bees in the Plymouth Colony.

His widow Lydia subsequently married his friend, Timothy Hatherly.

Children who survived to come to New England:

• Mary, married, 16 Mar 1636/7, Thomas Lapham (a Tilden servant);
• Sarah, married, 16 Mar 1636/7,, George Sutton (a Tilden servant);
• Joseph, married, 20 Nov 1649, Elizabeth Twisden, and had the homestead;
• Thomas, married, by 1654, Elizabeth Bourne;
• Judith, married, by 1641, Abraham Preble;
• Lydia, married, by 1638, Richard Garrett; and
• Stephen, married , 25 Jan 1661/1662, Hannah Little

Comments

The 1664 will of Thomas Bourne had been misinterpreted, and gave genealogists the impression there had been a (fictional) daughter Lydia Bourne who married either the Elder Nathaniel Bourne or his (fictional) son Nathaniel Tilden ll.

The expression "my Daughter Tildin: Daughter Lydia Tildin" means, and perhaps should be read, "my daughter Tildin's daughter Lydia Tildin," in other words, his granddaughter Lydia, child of his daughter Elizabeth (Bourne) (Waterman) Tilden; and it will be noted that Elizabeth's four Waterman boys were given legacies in the same paragraph immediately following Lydia's legacy. The ambiguity of the Tilden clause has caused many genealogists to conclude that Thomas Bourne had a daughter Lydia, but care-, ful study of the records fails to substantiate the existence of such a daughter.

Therefore -

- Lydia Bourne did not exist (she was her sister Elizabeth)
- Nathaniel Tilden Jr did not exist (he was his brother Thomas, who married Elizabeth (Bourne), widow Waterman)

SOURCES INCLUDE:

1. "The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1633-1634," compiled by Robert Charles Anderson, Vol 7, Pages 42 -, New England Historic Genealogical Society (Boston, MA: 2003).
2. * FHL #974 w2aa (vol. 1+)
3. Typewritten manuscript based on researches and compilation by Samuel Jones Tilden, Ex-Governor of New York and 1875 candidate for U.S. presidency, in "Notes on the Origin of the Tilden Name and Family" (1894, FHL Film #1465994, Item 9).
4. Brief sketch in "A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England," by James Savage" (Reprint by Genealogical Publishing Co:, Baltimore, MD, 1969; originally printed by Little, Brown & Co., Boston, MA, 1860-1862)
5. "The Pioneers of Massachusetts," compiled by Charles Henry Pope, Page 454 (Reprint by Genealogical Publishing Co.: Baltimore, MD, 1991; originally printed by C. H. Pope: Boston, MA, 1900)
6. Article in "Genealogical Research in England," by Miss Elizabeth French (New England Historical and Genealogical Register: Vol 65, Pages 322/333, Boston, MA, 1911).
7. "The Ancestry of Joseph Neal," by Walter Goodwin Davis, Pages 51 - 59 (Southworth-Anthoensen Press: Portland, ME, 1945) FHL 929.273 N253
8. Sketch submitted as a Note in New FamilySearch by "bradovermeyer"

The Tilden family tree goes back into the 1200's.