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About Robert ‘the Constable’ fitz Ivo
Robert FITZIVO, The Constable
- Male Abt 1055 - Aft 1086 (~ 32 years)
Principle tenant of Robert, Count of Mortain.
The following information was in a post-em from Curt Hofemann, (curt_hofemann@yahoo.com):
“Robert the Constable, or Robert Fitz Ivo, a principal tenant of Robert, Count of Mortain, held Stoke-under-Hamden and Hatch, at Domesday. [Ref: Paul Reed 21 Jan 1999 msg to SGM, subject: Re: Constance Blount]
Keats-Rohan remarks:
- Identified as son of Ivo and as constable in Exon Domesday and the Tax returns.
- Probably constable at Montacute, Somerset.
- His lands not only passed to the Beauchamps, but he may actually have been the first Robert de Beauchamp recorded in 1092.
Family
Robert FitzIvo was born ABT 1050 in Stoke-under-Hamden & Hatch, Somerset, England, and died AFT 1086 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England.
https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/162642/I05731/robert-fitzivo/registry
Children of Robert /FitzIvo/, The Constable are:
- Miss de Beauchamp was born ABT 1068 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England. Married : Richard FitzTurold.
- Robert I de Beauchamp was born ABT 1072 in Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England, and died AFT 1113.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudal_barony_of_Hatch_Beauchamp
The feudal barony of Hatch Beauchamp or honour of Hatch Beauchamp was an English feudal barony with its caput at the manor of Hatch Beauchamp in Somerset.
The early history of the de Beauchamp family of Hatch is "by no means clear".[4]
- Robert I de Beauchamp (fl. 1092) in 1092 witnessed a charter.[4]
- Robert II de Beauchamp (fl. 1158) witnessed a Somerset charter c. 1150, and is again recorded in the Somerset Pipe Roll in 1158.[4] He was possibly the "Robert de Beauchamp" who was Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset between 1176 and 1181
Descent
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Notes_and_Queries_-_Series_10_-...
BEAUCHAMP OF SOMERSETSHIRE. (10 S. viii. 307.)
IN vol. xxxvi. of the Somersetshire Archaeological Society's Proceedings is a 40-page article by the late Mr. John Batten, entitled ' The Barony of Beauchamp of Somerset.' This gives what appears to be a fairly exhaustive account of the family of Beauchamp of Hatch, and it should be con- sulted by MB. F. A. EDWARDS if he has not already done so. The article states that it is difficult to establish the relationship, if any, which existed between the Beauchamps of Somerset and the other noble families of that name : they certainly bore distinct arms, but they were probably branches of one Norman stock seated originally near Avranches.
Mr. Batten suggests that the Somerset Beauchamps were descended from " Robert the Constable," otherwise " Robert Fitz Ivo," who at the time of Domesday held extensive domains in the Western counties, part of the Honour of Moretain, those domains including the manor of Hatch. The Rev. R. W. Ey ton (' Domesday Studies ') also states that " Robert the Constable " was ancestor of the Barons Beauchamp of Hatch.
According to Mr. Batten, Robert Fitz Ivo was probably father of Robert Beauchamp (I.), who in 1092 was witness to a charter by which Ansger Brito gave his land at Preston (near Yeovil) to the Priory of Bermondsey, Surrey, and who also witnessed a charter of Henry I. confirming that gift.
Robert (T.) had a son, another Robert Beauchamp, who for the aid to marry the King's daughter in 1166 certified that he held of the King in chief seventeen knights' fees, all of the old feoffment, and who was Sheriff of Dorset and Somerset as early as 9 Henry II. (1162-3), and again from the 22nd to the 29th of the same reign. (1183) after which nothing more is heard of him.
References
- https://reidgen.com/getperson.php?personID=I54219&tree=ReidFamilyTree
- https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/FitzIvo-3“ Query: the daughter Emma looks suspicious.... “ I have seen no evidence that his father was Ivo de Taillebois and I assume Dan's proposal is based simply on the mistaken idea that the name Ivo was rare. It was common.“. Cites
- John Batten, "The Barony of Beauchamp in Somerset", Somersetshire Archaeol. Soc. Proceedings, vol. xxxvi, 1891, pp. 20-59.
- Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, p.385.
- Sanders, English Baronies, p.51.
- http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id... (Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs Families of the Pacific Northwest, by Jim Weber, rootsweb.com)
- Notes & Queries for Somerset and Dorset, Volume 6 page 50.
- Tables. By Robert William Eyton. page 69. GoogleBooks
Robert ‘the Constable’ fitz Ivo's Timeline
1050 |
1050
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Stoke-sub-Hamdon, also known as Stoke under Ham, Hatch Beauchamp , Taunton, Somerset, England (United Kingdom)
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1068 |
1068
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Hatch Beauchamp, Taunton, Somerset, England
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1072 |
1072
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Hatch, Somerset, England-
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1086 |
1086
Age 36
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Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, England (United Kingdom)
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