Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure

Dead: 11/8/1408 , 1450 or 1386

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7. Sir Gilbert7 Kennedy of Dunure (John6, Gilbert5de Carrick, Gilbert4, Roland3, Nicol,2, Duncan1) married Marion Sandilands of Calder, daughter of Sir James Sandilands of Calder and Elenora (--?--) Countess of Carrick, after 1354.11 He married Agnes Maxwell after 1380.12

He was a hostage for David II, in 1354; had a grant from Sir John his father, a charter from Robert III of lands of Cassillis in 1404. Sir Gilbert married twice according to the Peerage and McDowall, and they agree that the first wife was Marion, daughter of Sir James Sandilands of Calder by Elnora, Countess of Carrick; but McDowall claims James, the son who married the King's daughter, was by the second marriage but that because of his royal wife he was put before the older brother, Gilbert, and became heir.13

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Children of Sir Gilbert7 Kennedy of Dunure and Marion Sandilands of Calder were as follows:

• i. Gilbert8; b. after 1360. He was disinherited by his father and died in French dervice and had no issue; he killed his brother James.14
• ii. Alexander of Ardstychar; b. after 1360.
• 8. iii. Sir James of Dunure, b. circa 1380; m. Princess Mary (--?--).

CORRECTION: 1) Gilbert 2) John 3) Roland

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Children of Sir Gilbert7 Kennedy of Dunure and Agnes Maxwell were as follows:

• i. Sir Hugh8 of Ardstincher; b. after 1380.15 *He is the ancestor of the Kennedys of Bargany.16
• ii. John; b. after 1390.17
• iii. Thomas; b. after 1390.*Pitcairn says Bargany family descend from him.19
• iv. David; b. after 1390.20

CORRECTION:

1. James , M (~1384-<1408)
2. Alexander , M (~1386->1415)
3. Hugh “Come With The Penny” , M (~1388-)
4. John , M (~1390-<1473)
5. Thomas , M (~1392-)
6. David , M (~1394-)

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From “Records of the family of Cassels and connexions”

Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure, eldest son of John Kennedy, married, first, Marion, daughter of Sir James Sandilands of Calder, by whom he had three sons, Gilbert, John, and Roland ; and, secondly, Agnes Maxwell, daughter of Sir John Maxwell of Pollok, by his wife, Isabel Lindsay, daughter of Sir James Lindsay of Crawford, by the Princess Egidia, sister of Robert II. The eldest son of Sir Gilbert Kennedy and Agnes Max- well was James, who married the Princess Mary, daughter of Robert III., in 1403, and by her had six sons. James was killed by his brother GILBERT, in consequence of the preference shown to the second family (they having been disinherited to make way for James).

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Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure

M, #24475, d. after 8 November 1408

Last Edited=22 Jun 2008

    Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure was the son of Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure and Agnes Maxwell.1 He died after 8 November 1408.

Child of Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure

Sir James Kennedy of Dunure, younger+ d. b 8 Nov 1408

Citations

[S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 40. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.

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5. Sir Gilbert5 de Carrick (Gilbert4, Roland3, Nicol,2, Duncan1) obtained a charter to several estates; among these was Dunure and the Castle of Lochdown, still held by the Family. From this time on the Family dropped the name Carrick and assumed Kennedy before 1309.9

Children of Sir Gilbert5 de Carrick and an unknown spouse were:

6. i. Sir John6 of Dunure

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Dead: 11/8/1408 , 1450 or 1386

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lelandva/kenne007.htm#id3888

7. Sir Gilbert7 Kennedy of Dunure (John6, Gilbert5de Carrick, Gilbert4, Roland3, Nicol,2, Duncan1) married Marion Sandilands of Calder, daughter of Sir James Sandilands of Calder and Elenora (--?--) Countess of Carrick, after 1354.11 He married Agnes Maxwell after 1380.12

He was a hostage for David II, in 1354; had a grant from Sir John his father, a charter from Robert III of lands of Cassillis in 1404. Sir Gilbert married twice according to the Peerage and McDowall, and they agree that the first wife was Marion, daughter of Sir James Sandilands of Calder by Elnora, Countess of Carrick; but McDowall claims James, the son who married the King's daughter, was by the second marriage but that because of his royal wife he was put before the older brother, Gilbert, and became heir.13

Children of Sir Gilbert7 Kennedy of Dunure and Marion Sandilands of Calder were as follows:

i. Gilbert8; b. after 1360.

He was disinherited by his father and died in French dervice and had no issue; he killed his brother James.14

ii. Alexander of Ardstychar; b. after 1360.

8. iii. Sir James of Dunure, b. circa 1380; m. Princess Mary (--?--).

Children of Sir Gilbert7 Kennedy of Dunure and Agnes Maxwell were as follows:

i. Sir Hugh8 of Ardstincher; b. after 1380.15

   He is the ancestor of the Kennedys of Bargany.16

ii. John; b. after 1390.17

iii. Thomas; b. after 1390.18

   Pitcairn says Bargany family descend from him.19

iv. David; b. after 1390.20

http://www.thepeerage.com/p2448.htm#i24475

Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure

M, #24475, d. after 8 November 1408

Last Edited=22 Jun 2008

Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure was the son of Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure and Agnes Maxwell.1 He died after 8 November 1408.

Child of Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure

Sir James Kennedy of Dunure, younger+ d. b 8 Nov 1408

Citations

[S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 40. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lelandva/kenne005.htm#id3886

5. Sir Gilbert5 de Carrick (Gilbert4, Roland3, Nicol,2, Duncan1) obtained a charter to several estates; among these was Dunure and the Castle of Lochdown, still held by the Family. From this time on the Family dropped the name Carrick and assumed Kennedy before 1309.9

Children of Sir Gilbert5 de Carrick and an unknown spouse were:

6. i. Sir John6 of Dunure

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Taget til fange 1346 ved Durham.

'Strange enough there is an incomplete charter by Robert II to Gilberto de Carryk de omnibus suis terris in bk 3 no 8 of the crown records and must have been in the early part of that monarch's reign much about the same time that John Kennedy obtained his. This Gilbert de Carrick coexistent with John Kennedy of Dunure must have been one of the direct representatives of the de Carrick family. The author then quotes from the 'Historical Account of the Noble Family of Kennedy' (anon. 1849 Edinburgh) "there is not in the charter chest of the Marquis of Ailsa any original grant of the barony of Dunure whereby it might be seen how that estate came into the family... about 1290 a charter was granted by Malcolm earl of Lennox in favour of Gilbert de Carrick of the lands of Bukmonyn-Kennedy, Cromicaine and Blairfode in the earldom of Lennox (*on 28 oct 1393 Duncan Earl of Lennox confirms a grant by Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure in favour of John Kennedy son of Fergus Kennedy of the lands of Buckmonyn in the earldom of Lennox. The presumption here is that Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure had succeeded Sir Gilbert de Carrick as heir to these lands when he granted them to John Kennedy son of Fergus Kennedy.) This Gilbert de Carrick was one of the prisoners taken at the battle of Durham in 1346. [Paterson disputes this: the editor must be wrong, he writes; supposing him to be only 21 in 1290 when he succeeded his father sir gilbert he would have been 75 at the battle of durham! in short there is no evidence that this Kennedy was related to the de Carricks save the lands he possessed and some similarities in the family arms] The earliest charter in Lord Ailsa's charter chest is 18 jan 1357 by David II confirming for John de Kennedy all the lands acquired by him. This is the first time the name of Kennedy appears in the title deeds. It has been supposed that this John de Kennedy who in another charter about the same period is called 'of Dunure' changed the name from Carrick to Kennedy."

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NameSir Gilbert De Carrick , M Birth Dateabt 1285 Spouses Unmarried ChildrenJohn , M (~1330-1385) Notes for Sir Gilbert De Carrick ... Gilbert received from King Robert the Bruce a remission for Arthur his son-in-law having surrendered Lochdoon castle to the English, and was restored to the government thereof with the lands thereto belonging. Sir Gilbert de Carrick was one of the prisoners taken at the battle of Durham in 1346.

Source: Electric Scotland.com: The Scottish Nation, Cassillis - http://www.electricscotland.com/history/nation/cassillis.htm

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Taget til fange 1346 ved Durham.

'Strange enough there is an incomplete charter by Robert II to Gilberto de Carryk de omnibus suis terris in bk 3 no 8 of the crown records and must have been in the early part of that monarch's reign much about the same time that John Kennedy obtained his. This Gilbert de Carrick coexistent with John Kennedy of Dunure must have been one of the direct representatives of the de Carrick family. The author then quotes from the 'Historical Account of the Noble Family of Kennedy' (anon. 1849 Edinburgh) "there is not in the charter chest of the Marquis of Ailsa any original grant of the barony of Dunure whereby it might be seen how that estate came into the family... about 1290 a charter was granted by Malcolm earl of Lennox in favour of Gilbert de Carrick of the lands of Bukmonyn-Kennedy, Cromicaine and Blairfode in the earldom of Lennox (*on 28 oct 1393 Duncan Earl of Lennox confirms a grant by Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure in favour of John Kennedy son of Fergus Kennedy of the lands of Buckmonyn in the earldom of Lennox. The presumption here is that Sir Gilbert Kennedy of Dunure had succeeded Sir Gilbert de Carrick as heir to these lands when he granted them to John Kennedy son of Fergus Kennedy.) This Gilbert de Carrick was one of the prisoners taken at the battle of Durham in 1346. [Paterson disputes this: the editor must be wrong, he writes; supposing him to be only 21 in 1290 when he succeeded his father sir gilbert he would have been 75 at the battle of durham! in short there is no evidence that this Kennedy was related to the de Carricks save the lands he possessed and some similarities in the family arms] The earliest charter in Lord Ailsa's charter chest is 18 jan 1357 by David II confirming for John de Kennedy all the lands acquired by him. This is the first time the name of Kennedy appears in the title deeds. It has been supposed that this John de Kennedy who in another charter about the same period is called 'of Dunure' changed the name from Carrick to Kennedy." NameSir Gilbert De Carrick , M Birth Dateabt 1285 Spouses Unmarried ChildrenJohn , M (~1330-1385) Notes for Sir Gilbert De Carrick ... Gilbert received from King Robert the Bruce a remission for Arthur his son-in-law having surrendered Lochdoon castle to the English, and was restored to the government thereof with the lands thereto belonging. Sir Gilbert de Carrick was one of the prisoners taken at the battle of Durham in 1346.

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• Source: Electric Scotland.com: The Scottish Nation, Cassillis - http://www.electricscotland.com/history/nation/cassillis.htm Last Modified 1 Mar 2015Created 9 Jan 2017 using Reunion for Macintosh
• http://www.venitap.com/Genealogy/WebCards/ps34/ps34_057.htm
• http://fabpedigree.com/s032/f084384.htm
• “Records of the family of Cassels and connexions” Page 5 link