While I'm thinking about shared DNA matches...
Jennifer Mendelsohn (professional genealogist) is giving a talk on Thursday this week (online) called "No, You Don't Really Have 7,900 Fourth Cousins: Getting Started With Ashkenazi Jewish DNA"
https://programs.cjh.org/tickets/family-history-today-2021-10-28
It is "pay as you wish" (you choose how much, if anything, to donate when you attend).
I wonder if you contact them now, if they could caption it for you or get an ASL interpreter (not sure if it's video of her talking or just a slide show with narration). It may be worthwhile. I'm hoping to attend if I have time.
Harris (Hirsh) Rosenberg
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Mitchell K Siegel Harris (Hirsh)'s second great nephew
<private> Montanile (Eisenberg) Harris (Hirsh)'s third great niece
No, I am not related to Rabbi David Rosenberg or to Moshe Fine, as far as I know.
What are the 6 matches on AncestryDNA that connect you to David Rosenberg? How many cM do you share, and how many segments?
What are the 9 matches on AncestryDNA that connect you to Moshe Fine? How many cM do you share, and how many segments?
This would be really helpful. It could help us prove the relationship of Herzl Bloom and Max Mordechai Rosenberg/Bloom to the rest of the Rosenberg family.
Yes, I agree that your family tree is incorrect in places.
It would be great to prove the relationships with DNA and correct the tree.
Does AncestryDNA tell you the names of the matches with relationship paths to you and Moshe Fine, David Rosenberg, or Zvi Arye Rosenberg, and tell you how many cM you share with each of the matches individually? If so, it would be helpful to post that information (or you can e-mail it if it's easier).
I am not happy with Jess and Leslie about my family tree is incorrect in places on Ancestry.
thruLines uses Ancestry® trees to suggest that you may be related to 6 DNA matches through J. Rozaitsky, Zvi Arye Rosenberg and Rabbi David Rosenberg.
Stephen Bloom 3rd cousin 10cM /2 segments
Marylin J. Silverstein 3rd cousin 1x removed 17cM / 2 segments
S. Rosen 3rd cousin 1x removed 30cM /5 segments
D. Elefson 2nd cousin 165cM /10 segments
Jess Lacher half 1st cousin 1x removed 454cM 26 segments
Leslie half 1st cousin 1x removed 424cM 18 segments
Ann Nachman half 1st cousin
Rose Bloom Nachman half aunt
Mitchell, Looking at one of your statements as an example:
"ThruLines uses Ancestry® trees to suggest that you may be related to 9 DNA matches through Moshe Fine between 10 and 454cM relationship paths to me."
Notice
1) it says "ThruLines uses Ancestry® trees" --
Means what it is saying is just based on the Trees people put on Ancestry.
Those trees can well be wrong
It is not saying the DNA is actually showing anything - just the Tree
2) "to suggest that you may be related" -
It is NOT saying you are related - it is just suggesting that you MAY BE
It is up to you to put the work in to see if you can prove if it is true
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You throw those out as if they are lots of statements of fact.
They are not statements of fact.
They are guesses / suggestions / hints / clues for you to investigate
You seem to be unaware that
For any population with endogamy,
SUGGESTED relationships more distant than about first cousin have a high probability of being wrong
For example:
a suggested relationship of "3rd cousin"
Is a suggested relationship along one line
But with endogamy may be 6th cousin along two lines
or 9th cousin along each of 3 lines or many other possibilities