Mitchell and Dawn Siegel DNA Connections

Re:
"Stephen Bloom 3rd cousin 10cM /2 segments
Marylin J. Silverstein 3rd cousin 1x removed 17cM / 2 segments
S. Rosen 3rd cousin 1x removed 30cM /5 segments"

Am I understanding correctly - those are
1) people who have tested at Ancestry?
2) The amount of cM and segments you share with them per the DNA test at Ancestry?
3) how you are related to them per your tree at Ancestry?

Can you provide links to their profiles on Geni?
Can you provide the path between you and each of them on your tree on Ancestry?

YOU ARE POOR JUDGEMENT.

JESS LACHER FAMILY ARE RELATED TO MY MOM SIDE.

JESS LACHER FAMILY TREE:

SAMUEL SUSMAN BETTINGER, BENJAMIN LACHER ARE RELATED TO MY MOM'S SIDE - REBECCA (RIIFA) HEITNER.

JESS LACHER IS RELATED TO HERBERT BLOOM. I AM RELATED TO DAVID W BLOOM

ANNA KLUTCH, EUGENE KLUTCH, ROSE KLUTCH, RACHEL LEAL, JACK NACHMAN, ROSE NACHMAN, ABRAHAM NACHMANOWITZ AND FANNIE KATZHOFF ARE RELATED TO MY MOM SIDE - PAULINE (PESEL) WEINER.

ANN NACHMAN IS RELATED TO MY MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER BETTY HERMAN, MY MOM AND MY FATHER AND ME.

YOU NEED TO BUILT UP FOR JESS LACHER FAMILY - RELATED TO MY MOM'S SIDE PERIOD

Rebecca Heitner

Не показывать

Не показывать

Pauline (Pesel) Herman

S. Harris is related to my mom and my dad

YOU LOOK AT MY PROFILE PHOTO FOR PURPLE HIGHLIGHTEN K1a1b1a.

Beverly Siegel

LESLIE IS RELATED TO JACOB SIEGEL FOR MY MATERNAL GRANDFATHER MEIR HERMAN'S MOM PAULINE (PESEL) WEINER.

Where are Martha's GedMatch? That's unfair to me. Please help Martha for upload into GedMatch.

Rose Nachman and Ann Nachman are incest cousins of my mom and my dad.

Della Dale Pistelli (SMITH) is my wife's 11th cousin once removed in BLUE.

Della Dale Smith-Pistelli is your great aunt's brother's wife's sister's husband's second great niece.

ME
→ Herbert Siegel -------------------------------------------------------- ME
your father → Mary Siegel --------------------------------------------- SIBLING - ME
his mother → David Walter Bloom ---------------------------------- SIBLING - ME
her brother → Clara F Bloom
his wife → Arthur Harold Ferrin
her brother → Della "Jenny" Ferrin
his wife → Mary Ella Madsen --------------------------------------------- MARTHA
her sister → Ezra Jacob Madsen ----------------------------------------ME/MY WIFE
her husband → Dortha Roxana Rollins-McKinney
his sister → Dortha Evelyn Eubank
her daughter → Frances Amelia Smith
her daughter → Della Dale Smith-Pistelli
her daughter

<private> Smedley (Piggott) Ezra's first cousin twice removed
<private> Ballou Ezra's first cousin thrice removed
<private> Bartu (Smedley) Ezra's first cousin thrice removed
<private> Henderson Ezra's first cousin thrice removed

Paul Auerbach 5th - 8th with two DNA matches 11cM across 2 segments are related to my mom side - Leslie, Ronald Siegel, Irene Pines, Randy Dreyfess's common ancestors and Bonnie Yablon

Mitchell, you have made a lot of statements, but have given absolutely no reason for anyone to believe them.

Thrulines suggestions are just suggestions - not a reason to believe anything is true.

Suggested or Estimated DNA relationships are notoriously unreliable for anyone with endogamy -- and for everyone, do not provide any proof for what the common ancestor or ancestors are.

If X, Y, and Z are all matches you have in common with AA that does not mean you, AA, and X all share a common ancestor -- and definitely does not mean you, AA, X, Y, and Z all share a common ancestor.

If you and someone share the same MtDNA, then you probably have a common ancestor sometime in the past few thousand years - but that is meaningless for genealogy.

S. HARRIS 4th -6th cousin is close family as Leslie and Ronald Siegel with ME (ROSE NACHMAN & ANN NACHMAN) - MY MOM & MY DAD.

WHERE ARE MARTHA'S GEDMATCH??? I WON'T DISCUSS WITH YOU

If two people share 11cM across 2 segments, then the common ancestor is likely too far back to show up on the Trees one can construct.
And looking at matches you have in common with them tells you nothing when you are part of an endogamous population.

YOU ARE NOT RELATED TO ROSENBERG. YOU TRIED TO FIGURE OUT.

Martha's GedMatch is incorrect

where are your GedMatch?

We want to see Martha's GedMatch.

LOIS & LISA , YOU TAKE YOUR ANCESTRY KIT

LESLIE AND ME - CHR 22 largest segment = 47.1cM. MRCA = 2.5

LESLIE - CAROLE - MY FATHER - ROSE NACHMAN - MARY BLOOM

Lisa, please take your ancestry kit for your bloom family.

GedMatch HELEN WINTER: Leslie : MRCA = 4.6
ME : MRCA = 3.6

HELEN WINER - FLO MILLER - SARAH BERGSMAN - FREIDA KAMM - MARY BLOOM - ROSE NACHMAN - MY DAD - CAROLE - LESLIE

Mitchell - that is not the path Leslie accepts nor the path the DNA supports, so you should stop presenting it.
Why do you give that path and not the path to you?
Why do you not give us a link to Mary Winter or Winer?

To help us out -
SARAH BERGSMAN is Sarah Bergsman and is the daughter of Emil Kamm and Freida (Kamm) Bloom according to Geni now -- so the half sister of Mary (Bloom) Siegel and of David Bloom

FLO MILLER is Florence Miller who is the daughter of SARAH BERGSMAN and is the mother of HELEN WINER = Helen Winer

BUT do we know Helen Winter = Helen Winer??

Where are your Martha's GedMatch and your GedMatch???

MRCA = Most Recent Common Ancestor
It is an estimate Gedmatch gives. -- it is just an estimate, not a fact
At least for populations with endogamy, it is usually wrong

Assuming Helen Winter = Helen Winer then What is the shared cM and longest segment between you and Helen???

The path from Helen to you, per your belief -
HELEN WINER - FLO MILLER - SARAH BERGSMAN - FREIDA KAMM -
and then down FREIDA KAMM. - DAVID WALTER BLOOM - YOUR DAD=Herbert - MITCHELL - which is 1/2 2nd cousin
AND also down FREIDA KAMM. - MARY (BLOOM) Siegel - ROSE NACHMAN- YOUR DAD=Herbert - MITCHELL which is 1/2 2nd once removed
So you would have BOTH those relationships, yes?

Using path Geni currently has
HELEN WINER - FLO MILLER - SARAH BERGSMAN - FREIDA KAMM -
and then down FREIDA KAMM. - MARY BLOOM - YOUR DAD=Herbert - MITCHELL
so 1/2 2nd cousin - it is 3 gen from Helen, then 3 gen to you but only to half an ancestral couple - what MRCA is that?

The path Leslie believes and DNA supports
HELEN WINER - FLO MILLER - SARAH BERGSMAN - FREIDA KAMM
Then down FREIDA KAMM - MARY BLOOM - ROSE NACHMAN - Arthur - Leslie